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    Originally posted by wild willy
    The Nozzel should not fit in the hole....I almost did that once and could not figure out why it was too big for the hole (Not something I am used to)
    How could this happen?
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    Oh, I caught it.... ...but chose to ignore it.

    No need to feed WW's ego.

    Anyways, a minivan is proof of manliness....you need the space to move all those kids you've sired.

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    Yes it would have still cost more because to get to the dealer would involve a 20 mile tow. I barely got the van to the station at the bottom of my street.

    The first thing I did when I came home was to take my wife to the gas station and have her show me which nozzle she used to fill the car. No it wasn't huge.

    Her mistake was not listening when I told her that 1/2 a tank of gas is plenty. Yes WW is right the gas mileage on the Odyssey is abysmal, but still it can handle 20 miles worth of errands on 1/2 tank of gas.

    I was looking at new vans and you can get a Sienna with leather seats for 3K less than a Honda. Better quality at a cheaper price. Not much of a decision there.
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    I really doubt there was any need for new spark plugs. Worst case should have been to remove, clean, and reinstall.

    Fuel filter, maybe. Maybe even the fuel pump if you already were into it for the filter. Certainly if either were changed you should do both.

    $800 seems nuts to me. So does filling up the tank before the angry yellow light is on continuously. In fact, I usually run it until the pointer is on the E, not even in the red anymore.

    Years ago I had a 1983 Mitsubishi Starion Turbo(bought new!). It had a light that told me it was running out of fuel. I regularly ignored it, running right to the ragged edge. It was great, in that the engine would would hiccup once or twice at 3 or 4 miles before complete shutdown. I coasted into several gas stations, and used the starter to drag it to the pump. Try that on the Odyssey!
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    Originally posted by SuperDad
    So does filling up the tank before the angry yellow light is on continuously. In fact, I usually run it until the pointer is on the E, not even in the red anymore.
    That's not good for the fuel pump. The fuel pump is cooled by the fuel if I am not mistaken. The lower you run it regularly, the warmer the fuel pump runs. Though there's no scientific proof of that, I rarely let it go that low. When the light blinks I fill up if not at the 1/4 mark.
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    Yes, the fuel pump is cooled by the gas its pumping. If the engine isn't misfiring, the fuel pump is still pumping fuel, and therefore getting cooled by it.

    One day soon I'll try the out-of-gas-behavior experiment on my new Saab. Its even got a Distance Till Empty display on the dashboard that says "Refill Fuel Now" when it drops below 20 miles or so. But I'd like to really know what 'Empty' is. Just call me Dick Van Dyke. (Dick Van Dyke show fans will know exactly which episode I'm referring to)
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    Come on the car has almost 80k miles/5yrs old. Even if I was doing it myself why would I go through all the trouble of pulling plugs and then put the old ones back in.
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    Because it's not that much trouble, and the plugs run about $12 each, and you could easily go another 20,000 miles (or more...much more) with them?

    I followed others' advice and did a quick pull to apply antiseize (aluminum a-seize only), and found the plugs still looked like new. I mean, amazingly unworn. Gap still good...and that was between 65,000 and 75,000 miles, I think.

    I guess Dad's point (which matches mine) is to not replace parts that are working properly and have given good service.

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    Yes, at $12 a piece, I'm not gonna go replacing a part which can be easily examined(and cleaned if needed, with a one second squirt of brake cleaner). For that matter, the original poster has no way to determine if that is in fact what happened.


    I myself wouldn't have removed anything. I'd have disconnected the fuel line and run the pump. Worst case, I would have added clean gasoline to the fuel tank to thin out the diesel, then run the pump until it emptied the tank. At that point, I'd have 20 gallons of diesel/gas mix, which I could burn in a metal bucket or >maybe< slowly reintroduce to the van over weeks.

    If the engine was running at all, it means the fuel pump was still pumping.
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    You guys are over paying for spark plugs. They are only 5.75 on this website.

    http://www.partsgeek.com/mmparts/spa...a/odyssey.html

    This website has them for 1.63 each
    http://catalog.autopartsgiant.com/Sh...+Plugs&mode=PA
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    Yes, but those sparkplugs are all stating OE is platinum. That is not correct, and they are just leading you to get their cheaper spark plugs. They may still work, maybe even for a while. If not, they hopefully won't drip chunks of molten slag into your combustion chamber, or slowly erode over a period of weeks or months.

    I believe true Odyssey OEM sparkplugs are Iridium tipped.
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    Originally posted by alderran
    You guys are over paying for spark plugs. They are only 5.75 on this website.

    http://www.partsgeek.com/mmparts/spa...a/odyssey.html

    This website has them for 1.63 each
    http://catalog.autopartsgiant.com/Sh...+Plugs&mode=PA
    Holy cow!! $12 each? Are those plugs made out of gold? I paid about 1.50 each for Bosch platinums after the $1 rebate for each. They are the ones that are a direct OE replacement. No issues at all after 40K miles. I am astonished as how Honda (or any place) can get away with selling plugs at that price when there are plenty of perfectly adequate alternatives at a small fraction of that price.

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    Originally posted by SuperDad
    Yes, but those sparkplugs are all stating OE is platinum. That is not correct, and they are just leading you to get their cheaper spark plugs. They may still work, maybe even for a while. If not, they hopefully won't drip chunks of molten slag into your combustion chamber, or slowly erode over a period of weeks or months.

    I believe true Odyssey OEM sparkplugs are Iridium tipped.
    OE is platinum, not Iridium.

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    I stand corrected

    OEM(or at least the ones hondaautomotiveparts's microfiche online are NGK PZFR5F-11, at $12.91), and are platinum, and $6.77 on Amazon. Didn't search for other sources.
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    I'm still with Dad...if it works really well, and will continue to work for a long time, I'll still use them...

    ...but of course, I'll take advantage of those sale prices, and save 'em for a rainy day.

    Thanks for searching for those prices, guys. It helps us out.

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