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    Do run flats suck that much?

    I've been thinking of geting another odyssey so iv'e been test driven a couple of 2008 EXL's and ive noticed they are very rough riding. They did have run flat tires. I ruled out those two vans because they were just to rough driven.

    The one i drove today was a little different i drove it a little longer.
    This one started off real bad, I made it one block before i had to pull over to make sure it didn't have a flat. I was going to just go back to the dealer, but decided to take it on the fwy just to see. After a few minites it smoothed out, the faster i went the better it got. Then realized it was also got better at slow speeds also. The ride back was much nicer, but still not near as smooth as my 2005 with regular tires. I assume it was because the run flats warmed up?

    Is this typical of run flats and cold weather? Im' thinking i should have driven the other 08's longer before dismissing them.
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    I've never driven on them but just make sure you buy one knowing you'll need to spend at least $1000-1500 on new tires and wheels.
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    Also, think about continuing support for that tire-wheel combination (the wheels are specific to run-flat tires, and cannot be used with any conventional tire setup). If the tire endures a puncture during a family vacation, you may have to seek help with a tire shop that can work on a run-flat system, and those may be few and far in between.

    All told, you have a to weigh the benefit of the run-flat system against a lot of other variables. Conventional tires have really improved over the past few decades in terms of rubber compounding and construction. I'm an old coot, and the durability of everyday tires (not run-flats) is so much better than what it was in the 1980's.

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    There are tons of threads on PAX (aka run-flats) but the initial issues with the last one you drove could be due to flat spots due to the vehicle sitting on the lot for a few days.
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    As far as I can tell, the direct answer to your question is "YES" (they do suck that bad)

    If they were so awesome, they would have worked their way down to every car by now, even econoboxes. But the reality is they are super expensive, they force you to live EVERY DAY with a rougher ride, they make it harder to easily replace when you need to (because not every tire shop stocks them). So you live every day with downsides yet your upside is protecting against some relatively remote scenario where you have a flat on a remote highway in the dark and rain and either changing to your spare or calling a tow truck is such a downside that the possibility of driving at 50mph for up to 40 miles or whatever is a much more appealing alternative. I'd venture to say that most people go through life NEVER having a flat, or for those who are unlucky enough to have one, they call AAA or change the spare themselves and then drive to the tire store and on their way. I'd prefer to have lower priced tires that ride better and then risk that I need to waste a couple hours in the very unlikely event that I have a flat. With runflats in their savior scenario (out on that remote stretch of highway) you're likely to drive into the small town with that single tire store and find out that they don't carry your replacement runflat anyway, so then what do you do? Check in to the Days Inn for 48 hours while they order it for you?

    It's a nice idea in theory and if the driving characteristics were exactly the same and they were equally stocked in stores as normal tires then I think the extra price could still be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Clark View Post
    I've never driven on them but just make sure you buy one knowing you'll need to spend at least $1000-1500 on new tires and wheels.
    Good point.
    Yeah i'm thinking of going back and test driving a nice 2008 over again, this time give it some time for the wheels to warm up. I certainly won't be keeping those wheels. i just want to know that it can run nice and smooth before i buy one.

    I picked up some new MDX rims yesterday off craigslist for $400, they weren't my first choice in rims, but the price was right.

    Like these. 19" ACURA MDX 2014 2015 2016 FACTORY OEM OE RIM WHEEL 71819 SILVER | eBay
    The down side is the limited tire choices in 245-50-19's, for that size I'm leaning toward BF GoodrichG-FORCE COMP-2 A/S.



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    As long as you pay attention to the load ratings and overall diameter I think you'll be OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogan773 View Post
    As far as I can tell, the direct answer to your question is "YES" (they do suck that bad)

    If they were so awesome, they would have worked their way down to every car by now, even econoboxes. But the reality is they are super expensive, they force you to live EVERY DAY with a rougher ride, they make it harder to easily replace when you need to (because not every tire shop stocks them). So you live every day with downsides yet your upside is protecting against some relatively remote scenario where you have a flat on a remote highway in the dark and rain and either changing to your spare or calling a tow truck is such a downside that the possibility of driving at 50mph for up to 40 miles or whatever is a much more appealing alternative. I'd venture to say that most people go through life NEVER having a flat, or for those who are unlucky enough to have one, they call AAA or change the spare themselves and then drive to the tire store and on their way. I'd prefer to have lower priced tires that ride better and then risk that I need to waste a couple hours in the very unlikely event that I have a flat. With runflats in their savior scenario (out on that remote stretch of highway) you're likely to drive into the small town with that single tire store and find out that they don't carry your replacement runflat anyway, so then what do you do? Check in to the Days Inn for 48 hours while they order it for you?

    It's a nice idea in theory and if the driving characteristics were exactly the same and they were equally stocked in stores as normal tires then I think the extra price could still be worth it.
    Yeah, I'm kind of amazed how bad those were.
    Funny thing is the guy who had the nicest 08 van was braging how smooth his van was. I wanted to let him drive my 05 to what a smooth ride is.

    Thanks for the feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Clark View Post
    As long as you pay attention to the load ratings and overall diameter I think you'll be OK.
    Yeah, diameter is 28.6" so plus 0.6" , so plus 2MPH at 85mph. With a 105w.
    TR gave some good overall reviews, just probably not as quiet as the Continentals i like.

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    Are you sure they had run flats on them? I noticed you said you test drove a couple ex-l's, the only problem is the ex-l came with regular tires. The touring came with the wonderful run flats that everyone loves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscha41 View Post
    Are you sure they had run flats on them? I noticed you said you test drove a couple ex-l's, the only problem is the ex-l came with regular tires. The touring came with the wonderful run flats that everyone loves.
    Hum,,, Now that i look at the different rims,,, no i'm not sure. One was a Touring, the other two were EXLs,

    I see one Honda rim that looks similar to run flats, but it's not. I guess it could have been front end issues with crap tires on the EXL's i'll have to pay closer attention.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Not all Tourings came with run-flats. My 08 didn't come with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Clark View Post
    Not all Tourings came with run-flats. My 08 didn't come with them.
    True, I believe it became a option in 2008. Now, when are you gonna sell me your non pax touring rims? Lol

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    One of those days,,, The MDX rims I bought appear to have the wrong bolt pattern. It looks like the 2014, 15, 16, MDX are 114-5

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    My touring did not come with run-flats also. YES they suck. I am sure you have friends that have a Prius. Make sure to get their opinion. At work to date I know 6 people that lost almost half day due to flat (Prius comes with run-flats and some models do to come with a spare tire). Drive down to the nearest dealer and pay about 1100 bucks for new tire(s). Fun, fun, fun.

    There are may other brands and models, not picking on Prius. Just a great example. Everyone seems to have at least one of these now.
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