Tranny shutter/Judder and recall updates!

[Ishkabibble]

Alright people I think I have a problem with my 07' with 518 miles on it. When going 50mph it feels like a really bad drone/vibration. I have driven plenty of cars in my life to know this is not normal. I just want some info from fellow owners before I take it in and they say "oh ya that's normal"

Thanks

[back3earth]

Oh no! You said the 'T' word. You sure about that shutter, or is more of a shudder or stutter?
Dunno if it's necessarily the tranny, but I'd definitely get it resolved ASAP. Maybe you just threw a wheel weight and need balancing. Hard to say without more info.

[dvpatel]

I have the same issue. I have a whopping 175 miles on the clock. It seems the transmission is shifting into higher gear and cannot keep up. This happens to my van starting from about 43-45 MPH and up to 52-55 MPH. Once you are below or above that limit, all is well.

If I take the van in, I am sure they will say that's how it is. Since getting the van, I have tried this in my 01 Accord and my Maxima. They too do this at various MPH. BUT the big difference is that the vibration is miniscule compared to the van's vibration. If you press harder on the gas pedal and force the transmission to shift into a lowe gear, the vibration thing goes away.

Are other 07 owners seeing the same behavior? I have a friend who has a 07 Touring. Next time I see him with his van, I will ask for a test drive.

From what I have read, they have replaced the transmissions in 07's with the RidgeLine transmission.

[brians]

I suspect you are only feeling the normal lugging that Honda has engineered in to maximize gas mileage.

My van lugs similarly too - although our '04 was even worse. I do find that once it is fully warmed up, our '07 lug/drone is pretty subdued. I wish they would just set the shift point a bit higher, and certainly have it higher while running cold.

[dvpatel]

That's exactly what I thought and hence have actually not taken the van in. It does happen and it bothers me but then I am picky as hell. So, you are confirming that it happens in your 07 as well (what you see subdued might not be the case for all other picky folks like myself) so, lets see how many more 07 owners have noticed this.

The first time I felt it, I was mad because we had felt it even when we test drove but I had chosen to ignore it and buy the van any way. Then, I hopped into the Accord and felt it in the Accord as well which immensely helped me to calm down.

Originally posted by brians
I suspect you are only feeling the normal lugging that Honda has engineered in to maximize gas mileage.

My van lugs similarly too - although our '04 was even worse. I do find that once it is fully warmed up, our '07 lug/drone is pretty subdued. I wish they would just set the shift point a bit higher, and certainly have it higher while running cold.

[sers]

I also experience this on my '07. However, it doesn't bother me. I figure, like brians said, it's the lugging you are experiencing due to the transmission kicking into 5th gear and the van trying to urk our as much mileage as it can.

I suppose if it bothers you, you can take the van out of overdrive and leave it in 4th, but, then you'll have to say bye bye to your fuel mileage.

[Ishkabibble]

I disagree. I didn't pay $26K to have a van that drives like it does. The first chance I get it is going back into the shop. It just doesn't feel right while driving. I can't wait to hear what the service manager has to say to me! I don't care how picky you are a transmission should not feel this way.

[dgipalo]

Originally posted by Ishkabibble
Alright people I think I have a problem with my 07' with 518 miles on it. When going 50mph it feels like a really bad drone/vibration. I have driven plenty of cars in my life to know this is not normal. I just want some info from fellow owners before I take it in and they say "oh ya that's normal"

Thanks

If you have an EX-L or Touring, the noise could be from ANC not working correctly. ANC (automatic noise cancellation,or something like that) is a part of the VCM (variable cylinder management) that seeks to maximize fuel economy. The drone would be correlated with the green 'eco' light.

Other causes of this drone include the active engine mounts not being right, or the downpipe resonating a bit. The latter can be 'tuned' a bit via weighs attached to the pipe that change the resonance frequency.

[egads]

dgipalo brings up a good point. An 07 with 518 miles on it is nowhere enough information.

[VFR pilot]

go drive another one, and see if its any diff.

[pf2003]

Originally posted by Ishkabibble
I disagree. I didn't pay $26K to have a van that drives like it does. The first chance I get it is going back into the shop. It just doesn't feel right while driving. I can't wait to hear what the service manager has to say to me! I don't care how picky you are a transmission should not feel this way.

I agree, it seems Ody owners are complacent and awfully accepting their vehicles are suppose to “just” be this way, live with it’s a Honda.

I have an 03, replaced the EGR, but tranny still shudders. Perhaps it's the tranny, but no codes "yet".... Longtime “loyal” Honda owners stand behind the vehicle as it’s the best on the planet and dismiss those owners with problems. Well I’m not a longtime Honda owner, nor would I call my Honda experience one which would make me loyal. It’s unfortunate to have problems this early on an 07, but for me I’m at the end of my Honda ownership experience and moving on. This website has lots of good info after you wade through some of the BS. Good luck figuring it out, I haven’t found much resolution.

[dvpatel]

Originally posted by pf2003
I agree, it seems Ody owners are complacent and awfully accepting their vehicles are suppose to “just” be this way, live with it’s a Honda.

I have an 03, replaced the EGR, but tranny still shudders. Perhaps it's the tranny, but no codes "yet".... Longtime “loyal” Honda owners stand behind the vehicle as it’s the best on the planet and dismiss those owners with problems. Well I’m not a longtime Honda owner, nor would I call my Honda experience one which would make me loyal. It’s unfortunate to have problems this early on an 07, but for me I’m at the end of my Honda ownership experience and moving on. This website has lots of good info after you wade through some of the BS. Good luck figuring it out, I haven’t found much resolution.

Wow. Who peeed in your cornflakes?

[pf2003]

Originally posted by dvpatel
Wow. Who peeed in your cornflakes?

No one peeed in my cornflakes......
My comments:
This website is good, after you wade through the BS. A legitatnmate No one peeed in my cornflakes......
My comments:
This website is good, after you wade through the BS. A legitimate comment, there are those which write Honda propaganda, and those which don’t have enough basic car knowledge to post, so somewhere in between is good information and ideas.

There are those that preach Honda is the best on the planet and pee on other brands without just cause. Yet these Honda owners feel it’s OK to have a shuttering tranny, rattling sliding doors and door glass, EGR and tranny issues, useless dealers (where is that Honda service ?) and brakes which rattle after a few miles because of worn pins or now a droning sound.

Honda knows the issues, yet after now many years of production do they still seem to either not address them, can’t fix them or the real truth it impacts the bottom line. People seem to buy into, this is just the way it has to be.

I use my vehicle, I don’t just tinker around town and I feel it should operate properly like the owner who started this thread. I guess I’m in the minority (or I don’t have the blinders on) that a vehicle in this price range should operate with certain expectations. If I had found this website prior to purchasing a Honda, I would not be driving one today. I don’t buy into a lot of “ “ on this site, but it certainly it shows of repetitive issues. I would be a fool to want to repeat my Honda experience and buy another.

[Ishkabibble]

Originally posted by egads
dgipalo brings up a good point. An 07 with 518 miles on it is nowhere enough information.

What other info would you like? There are no codes or SES light coming on. It only does it a 50 mph on the nose! I am an obsessive wrench head and this is my wifes van so I don't drive it that much but when I did the other day I noticed the shudder. The problem is, with both of us working fulltime and two kids it is going to be hard to get back into the dealer for them to look at it.

[dvpatel]

Originally posted by pf2003
No one peeed in my cornflakes......
My comments:
This website is good, after you wade through the BS. A legitatnmate No one peeed in my cornflakes......
My comments:
This website is good, after you wade through the BS. A legitimate comment, there are those which write Honda propaganda, and those which don’t have enough basic car knowledge to post, so somewhere in between is good information and ideas.

There are those that preach Honda is the best on the planet and pee on other brands without just cause. Yet these Honda owners feel it’s OK to have a shuttering tranny, rattling sliding doors and door glass, EGR and tranny issues, useless dealers (where is that Honda service ?) and brakes which rattle after a few miles because of worn pins or now a droning sound.

Honda knows the issues, yet after now many years of production do they still seem to either not address them, can’t fix them or the real truth it impacts the bottom line. People seem to buy into, this is just the way it has to be.

I use my vehicle, I don’t just tinker around town and I feel it should operate properly like the owner who started this thread. I guess I’m in the minority (or I don’t have the blinders on) that a vehicle in this price range should operate with certain expectations. If I had found this website prior to purchasing a Honda, I would not be driving one today. I don’t buy into a lot of “ “ on this site, but it certainly it shows of repetitive issues. I would be a fool to want to repeat my Honda experience and buy another.

I am not sure why you keep blaming the site for the BS. Sites like this one almost always attract the BS as most happy customers won't go looking for a site like this one.

And NO I am not saying that Honda is the best thing that happened to the automotive world since sliced bread. But like my own prior post says, both my other cars do it but to a lesser degree. So, it would be safe to say that in this $3.00 and counting a gallon world, it is actually good that manufactureres are trying out things to improve fuel economy. I am thinking if Honda rolled out a correction to the shift points, it will degrade the gas milage as the sooner you get to the highest gear, the better your fuel economy is.

Now, if you read my other posts, I do how ever agree with you that Honda is an arrogant company and does NOT learn from its mistakes. The Hondas have traditionally been less fuel efficient then their peers and infact, I hate Honda but in the Minivan Segment, there are no alternatives. I hate Toyota even more and don't like the way Sienna looks and Nissan Quest has way too many other issues so I felt Ody is the way to go.

The lugging is a minor annoyance. Today's Hondas are NOT the same as the 90-94 Accords on which Honda built this rep. Heck I see those Accords still kicking hard after 200 - 300K on the clock. I doubt one of our newer hondas can see half that with as little expense as those older ones (I know some who have only done routine maintenance on their old Accords).