DePax - The Right Way! - Detailed How-To Article

[dvpatel]

Originally posted by kngfisher
If I buy new sensors 06421-S3V-A04 does the dealer have to sync them with the car or do they do it on their own? I tried to have the service center sync the sensors that came on the rim/tire combo from tirerack since they were the ones who aligned the car/van not the dealer but they could not get the TPMS sensors to work. I was told that the dealer might have to get them working. This was and the maintenance B1 light was lit so thought I would kill 2 birds w/ one stone. Will call tirerack re: sensors. Wondering if I should just order a new set of Honda sensors 06421-S3V-A04 to make sure the correct ones are installed.

You need to step back a bit and read the OP nice and slow.

If you have a Touring and compatible new TPMS sensors, then when you drive a block or two, the TPMS light should go away. If that didn't happen, TireRack installed wrong sensors that are not compatible.

If you get the correct TPMS sensors, they should work WITHOUT having to go to a dealer as long as you have a Touring.

[kngfisher]

sorry, I guess I left that part out, I own a 2007 ody touring.....assumed that it was a given since PAX came standard on the 2007 ody and there was no option to go non-PAX. Not even sure if PAX was an option on the LX/EX/EXL. so, I just sent tirerack an email and will call them in the AM to figure out what is what with the sensors they sold me....from this thread, I think I am looking for the 06421-S3V-A04 for those should be compatible with my 07 touring when moving from PAX to non-PAX.....I hope.

[Noypi05]

Originally posted by kngfisher
If I buy new sensors 06421-S3V-A04 does the dealer have to sync them with the car or do they do it on their own? I tried to have the service center sync the sensors that came on the rim/tire combo from tirerack since they were the ones who aligned the car/van not the dealer but they could not get the TPMS sensors to work. I was told that the dealer might have to get them working. This was and the maintenance B1 light was lit so thought I would kill 2 birds w/ one stone. Will call tirerack re: sensors. Wondering if I should just order a new set of Honda sensors 06421-S3V-A04 to make sure the correct ones are installed.

I think the dealer is going to remove and replace the sensors you bought from Tirerack and that's the reason why they charging you for re-balancing the tires and other charges that they could get from you for doing extra work . Call Tirerack and try to get a refund for putting a non-compatible sensors. They should know this from the beginning. Touring TPMS will recognize and sync the Honda sensors (06421-S3V-A04) automatically and doesn't need help from any dealer's "mechanical expertise".

[tech_table]

Would this sensor P/N: 06421-S3V-A04 also compatible on 2007 EX-L other than the Touring ? Or the EX-L must use this sensor P/N: 06421-SCV-A00 ? Base on the TPMS reference that I found from this link: Honda TPMS, I hope this sensor P/N: 06421-S3V-A04 will work on an EX-L, as I had a set is on its way to me today for the MDX tech upgrade, if you some can clarify this, would much appreciated.

[dvpatel]

Originally posted by tech_table
Would this sensor P/N: 06421-S3V-A04 also compatible on 2007 EX-L other than the Touring ? Or the EX-L must use this sensor P/N: 06421-SCV-A00 ? Base on the TPMS reference that I found from this link: Honda TPMS, I hope this sensor P/N: 06421-S3V-A04 will work on an EX-L, as I had a set is on its way to me today for the MDX tech upgrade, if you some can clarify this, would much appreciated.

Read the Stickies called TPMS Sensor Cross Reference perhaps? Has the same link in there. Its clear that the EX-L uses a DIFFERNT part number so the one ending in -A04 won't work for your EX-L

The EX-L uses a DIFFERENT sensor and you will need to get it PROGRAMMED at the dealer with a potential cost of $100 - $200 as evidenced in other TPMS threads by EX-L owners.

[tech_table]

I just called Honda Parts Dept, and asked for this P/N: 06421-SCV-A00 for my 07 EX-L, and been told by them that not the correct tpms P/N for that 07 EX-L, and it should be P/N: 06421-SCV-A03 not A00, but when they put this P/N: 06421-SCV-A03 in their system, it came up with P/N: 06421-S3V-A04, which shown that this P/N: 06421-S3V-A04 was for the Touring, any ideas ? I have no clue at all.

[sah62]

Here's the run-down on what I did to depax my 2005 Touring. All prices are with shipping included:

4 Acura MDX Sport wheels purchased from forum user famman: $1,100
4 P235/55R18 Hankook RH07 Ventus AS (104V, 420/A/A) purchased from East Coast Tires on eBay: $535
20 OEM lug nuts, also purchased from famman: $50
08W42-SJA-201A Acura wheel lock kit purchased from HandA-Accessories.com: $41.70
4 06421-S3V-A04 TPMS sensors purchased from Majestic Honda: $152.42
Local mounting and balancing: $46.16
OEM unused compact spare tire assembly from a recycling yard I found through car-part.com: $125
Spare tire mounting hardware (83853-SHJ-A00 anchor bolt and 74666-SHJ-A00 anchor bolt adapter) from my local dealer: $11.56
TOTAL: $2,061.84

That's a bit more than I really wanted to spend (the wheels and tires can be had cheaper if you go smaller and aftermarket), but I'll do better than breaking even after the next time I need tires and I don't have to pay for PAX replacements.

[tech_table]

Yeah, it's my bad, the EX-L should use 06421-SCV-A00 per reference chart as dvpatel has mentioned, the 06421-S3V-A04 is for Touring not EX-L, I think there has been a miss communicated between me and the part guy at honda when I called in yesterday. Anyway I think I know what I should get now, Thanks to the most helpful thread.

[miketr75]

Originally posted by famman
Any questions regarding a DEPAX or upgrade... talk with a pro!

I specialize in DEPAX and upgrade sets. I look forward to helping you take care of your Odyssey's needs safely and correctly.

Famman,

I got your PM for quote on the MDX sport, 09 TL-AWD 18" and the A-Spec for your van. Sorry for late reply will call you this weekend for pricing on them.

[famman]

Originally posted by miketr75
Famman,

I got your PM for quote on the MDX sport, 09 TL-AWD 18" and the A-Spec for your van. Sorry for late reply will call you this weekend for pricing on them.

Thanks! I haven't been able to reach you? I want to think about a winter set that's different then my summer set. The Kumho tires seem to be loosing traction you sold me in just one winter? I purchased the set from you 'cause I couldn't find what I wanted, now most of what I sell are all 18" Tech sets!

While I offer some of the best prices to assist folks with their DEPAX and upgrade needs... I want to see what you can do compared to what I can put together myself.

[LuvAHonda]

Okay...I'm at my wit's end with this PAX issue. Spent most of the day talking with dealerships to decide whether to purchase an 09 Ody or DePAX my 05 Touring. I've spoken with sooo many unknowledgeable people...that work at Honda. One service rep. actually told me just to put another tire on the PAX rim...like they actually make one. He didn't know they were a 17.5" rim. I looked at the collegehillshonda website and their "depax" packages, but all of the spare kits are on BACKORDER with no idication of when they will be available. I think a spare is necessary...so what are my options? I prefer to stick with a 17 or 18" rim. I think I've read a thousand forums on this issue today, and unfortunately...I know nothing about the mechanics.

Can I use an Acura 17 or 18" rim?
Is there a certain model I should get? (MDX, etc.)
Can I use the TPMS sensors that are on my 05 PAX system?
Is Honda gonna rape my bank account to make this switch? Should I have them install the DePAX system? (they quoted me $2600 to have all 4 rims/tires replaced with a 16" system...didn't mention a spare)
Should I go with a local tire guy?...How much "PAX" experience do they need to get these sensors mounted properly?
Will I need to adjust anything else on my van when I dePAX?
What tire pressure do you set with a DePAXed arrangement?

My van has 67K miles, and I'm putting my 3rd set of tires on...

[Noypi05]

See my advise/comments in RED

Originally posted by LuvAHonda
Okay...I'm at my wit's end with this PAX issue. Spent most of the day talking with dealerships to decide whether to purchase an 09 Ody or DePAX my 05 Touring. I've spoken with sooo many unknowledgeable people...that work at Honda. One service rep. actually told me just to put another tire on the PAX rim...like they actually make one. He didn't know they were a 17.5" rim. I looked at the collegehillshonda website and their "depax" packages, but all of the spare kits are on BACKORDER with no idication of when they will be available. I think a spare is necessary...so what are my options? I prefer to stick with a 17 or 18" rim. I think I've read a thousand forums on this issue today, and unfortunately...I know nothing about the mechanics.

Can I use an Acura 17 or 18" rim? Yes with 5-120 bolt pattern
Is there a certain model I should get? (MDX, etc.) MDX or TL
Can I use the TPMS sensors that are on my 05 PAX system?Better buy new sensors instead of using old sensors for your new tires and rims
Is Honda gonna rape my bank account to make this switch?Not just rape but treat you like the most idiot person on earth
Should I have them install the DePAX system?You local tire shop can do that-very cheap (they quoted me $2600 to have all 4 rims/tires replaced with a 16" system...didn't mention a spare)try searching your local salvage yard if any available spare tire for 2005 +honda odyssey
Should I go with a local tire guy?...How much "PAX" experience do they need to get these sensors mounted properly?Depending on your local tire guy or print-out instructions somewhere here -use search
Will I need to adjust anything else on my van when I dePAX? You mean the sensors? Touring TPMS will adjust automatically
What tire pressure do you set with a DePAXed arrangement?I have 18 MDX tech rim and use 37 PSI for my Hankook Ventus 104 load rated with no problem

My van has 67K miles, and I'm putting my 3rd set of tires on...

Good Luck!

[lithni]

I need some information regarding depaxing my 05 odyssey touring. Can you please clarify the below.

1. Will it cause any damage to the van if i depax?
2. Will there be a warning message displayed all the time if we change the tires?
3. I have a honda extended warranty, will i be losing the warranty?

I am planning to depax using the below parts:

1. 42700-SHJ-C91 - 16 in. Honda odyssey EX alloy wheel.
2. 42751-MIC-082 - Michelin tires.235/65R16
3. 06421-SHJ-A02 - Spare Wheel.
4. 42751-GYR-034 - Wheel for Spare tire.

Is the above parts are correct?

I am searching the product code for odyssey EX TPMS. If you have the part code please email me.

Will the new EX TPMS will work on touring model?

I think i had covered every question i had in my mind.

Please advice. Waiting for you reply.

Originally posted by hah7800
I decided that PAX was not the way to stay and I wanted to stay with Honda parts so I ordered the following:

06421-S3V-A04 SENSOR ASSY., TPMS 4 33.61 134.44
42700-SHJ-C91 DISK, ALUMINUM WHEEL (16X7J) (ENKEI) 4 154.63 618.52
44732-S0X-A01 CAP, ALUMINUM WHEEL CENTER 4 5.67 22.68

I am using Cooper tires 235R65t014 and am very pleased much better handleing in snow ans ice then the PAX and mush better ride at 70+ MPH as well. Also the conversion stops much better.

Please notice the price my local Honda wanted $275 for each. online $154.63. granted there was a $140 shipping charge for the complete package.

I am getting ready to order the spare miniwheel fro the same location using part num 06421-SHJ-A02 this is a wheel kit without the tire. cost $68.44 plus shipping.

[dvpatel]

Originally posted by lithni
I need some information regarding depaxing my 05 odyssey touring. Can you please clarify the below.

1. Will it cause any damage to the van if i depax?
2. Will there be a warning message displayed all the time if we change the tires?
3. I have a honda extended warranty, will i be losing the warranty?

I am planning to depax using the below parts:

1. 42700-SHJ-C91 - 16 in. Honda odyssey EX alloy wheel.
2. 42751-MIC-082 - Michelin tires.235/65R16
3. 06421-SHJ-A02 - Spare Wheel.
4. 42751-GYR-034 - Wheel for Spare tire.

Is the above parts are correct?

I am searching the product code for odyssey EX TPMS. If you have the part code please email me.

Will the new EX TPMS will work on touring model?

I think i had covered every question i had in my mind.

Please advice. Waiting for you reply.

Did you even read the article in the OP of this thread? You need Touring Sensors as posted in the article.

The answers to your other questions too I believe are in this very thread.

[RyanG]

Joined the DePax crew, you can read details about it this thread.

Thanks MUCH for all the knowledge and wisdom that is available in this thread, it made my experience totally trouble free!