Maxlife ATF Now Cites DW-1 Compliance
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    Maxlife ATF Now Cites DW-1 Compliance

    I used the Valvoline Maxlife with my 03 Ody as Valvoline always claimed Z1 compliance, but have paid the big bucks for genuine Honda DW-1 in the 2012 because Valvoline didn't claim DW-1 compliance. Until now.

    http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife_atf.pdf

    They now claim DW-1 compliance except for CVT transmissions. As you can get a gallon jug of this stuff at Walmart for $18 and its fully synthetic ATF, I'm considering switching at the next schedule ATF change.

    Anybody else notice this change yet? Tried it in a DW-1 spec trans?
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    Thats good to know. Never read the update. Been using maxlife over 5 years in every toyota and honda vehicle we own. Several threads on it here were it is better than the honda fluid. Honda fluid just has some extra additives. You can make any aftermarket import synthetic compliant to Honda by adding Lubegard Black but prefer it without.

    Of course, oem fluid is always good for the vehicle. No issues either way.
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    Ashland Chem is continuously improves their products; they don't qui. Over the last couple years they slightly adjusted the viscosity index of Valvoline MaxLife Dex/Merc towards the viscosity range used by ATF DW-1, so I was wondering when they were going to finally print this spec on the bottle! Thanks for sleuthing this, manualman.

    It's always good to have good ATF alternatives.

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    Please note that this is only a Valvoline recommendation and not a Honda Recomemdation. Here is a copy of the Valvoline letter concerning that:

    "THOMAS R. SMITHVice President, Lubricant TechnologyDecember 20th, 2016(Supersedes All Prior Revisions)
    To Whom It May Concern:
    MaxLife ATF is a full synthetic automatic transmission fluid designed to meet the needs of the broadest range oftransmission designs. MaxLife ATF recommendations are based on a combination of field-testing and laboratory testing.Valvoline recommends MaxLife ATF in a broad range of transmissions. The list below is just a sample of applicationswhere Valvoline supports the use of MaxLife ATF. Valvoline has conducted in-house testing, independent lab testing, andfield-testing to support MaxLife ATF performance in these transmissions; however, it is important to note that the respectivevehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor approved MaxLife ATF in these applications. Allison TES 389*, C-4 Audi/VW G-055-025-A2, G-052-162-A1/A2, G-052-990-A2, G-055-005-A2, G-055-162-A6, G-055-540-A2, G-060-162-A2, G-052-025-A2, G-052-162-A1 BMW LT71141, LA2634, M-1375.4, ATF 3.0, 7045E,ETL 8072B Chrysler Diamond SP-III, NAG-1, 3403 M115 Ford MERCON®* (in California use Valvoline Dex/Merc) Ford MERCON® V*, FNR5*, XT-9-AMMF5*, (inCalifornia use Valvoline MERCON V) Ford MERCON® SP* MERCON® LV GM 9986195 GM DEXRON® II, III and VI GM Autotrak II Honda/Acura ATF-Z1, DW1 (except in CVTs) Hyundai SP-II, SP-III, SP-IV, SPH-IV,SP4-M, SP-IV-RR JWS 3309 JASO 1A KIA SP-II and SP-III Fluids, Red 1 Mazda M-V, FZ Mercedes Benz MB236.1, MB236.6, MB236.7, MB236.9,MB236.10, MB236.12*, MB 236.14*, MB 236.15* Mercedes Benz NAG-1 MOPAR AS68RC ATF Miscellaneous OEMs – M1375.4, M1375.6, L12108, LT 71141,ETL-7045E, ETL-8072B, 3403 M115, N402, AW-1 Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II, SP-III, ATF-J3, Dia Queen ATF-PA Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K, Matic-S, Matic W Saab 93 165 147 Subaru ATF Subaru ATF-HP Toyota / Lexus Type T, T-III and T-IV Toyota WS Volvo 1161521, 1161540, STD 1273.41, 97340 VW TL52162, LT71141 ZF TE-ML-14B, 16L, 17CValvoline stands behind all of its products, including MaxLife ATF. Use of MaxLife ATF in transmissions whererecommended by Valvoline WILL NOT void the vehicle’s warranty. Vehicle manufacturers are restricted by federal lawfrom including the requirement of the use of a specific brand or trade name of product or service as a condition of theirwarranty. The following is an extract from the Federal Trade Commission’s web site on interpretation of the MagnusonMossWarranty Act:"Tie-In Sales" Provisions Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision wouldrequire a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to usewith the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The followingare examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, youmust use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenanceperformed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc.,voids this warranty

    Valvoline has conducted extensive testing and has a long history of successful use of MaxLife ATF in a broad range ofapplications. In the unlikely event that you or your customer experiences any transmission damage while using MaxLifeATF in a Valvoline recommended application, please contact Valvoline at 1-800-Team-VAL for assistance.While MaxLife ATF is designed to meet the special needs of higher mileage transmissions, new transmissions can alsobenefit from its enhanced oxidation protection, shear stability, seal compatibility, wear protection and anti-shudderprotection. Many consumers have chosen to take advantage of this level of performance in newer transmissions.Valvoline does not recommend MaxLife ATF for use in most continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) unless specificallynoted nor in automatic transmissions where Ford Type F fluids are recommended.
    Sincerely,Thom SmithVice President, Lubricant TechnologyValvoline
    *Please note that legislation in California prohibits Valvoline from recommending MaxLife ATF in certain applicationswhere the viscometrics of MaxLife ATF do not match those of the official OEM specification. Valvoline therefore does notrecommend the use of MaxLife ATF in these applications in California."
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    Both ATF-Z1, and ATF DW-1. Interesting!

    I really like this stuff.

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    DW1 is, itself, backward compatible to Z1. That's why Honda doesn't make Z1 anymore.

    I don't think Honda sells DW1 licensing like GM does with Dexos oils. So yes, Maxlife is self-certifying DW1 compliance, but that doesn't imply that they've shirked some sort of higher certification. As far as I know Honda doesn't offer any so that's all anybody CAN do.

    I've got one more batch of DW1 lying around but will switch once that runs out.

    That leaves coolant as the last Honda branded fluid I use anymore!
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