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    windows slide when pushed.

    the regulator on the driver side of my van was replaced due to rattling noise and it slides when pushed down last year, now problem is back again.

    Just came back from the dealership and have the technician checked it and he told me that it's normal. He even show me the 09 model has the same problem.

    The technician say it's the design thing. I'm not very satisfied with their conclusion because I know this thing never happens before.

    So, does your front windows slide when pushed down?
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    Re: Re: Re: Passenger Front Power Window problem

    Originally posted by DrMark
    Well, this past Saturday, my wife calls and says the passenger window won't go up.

    I drive to where she is and swap vehicles, bring the Odyssey home, and tear into it.

    I get the regulator out, verify that's what broke, and check out the failure.

    By then, it's Saturday afternoon at 2:00, and all of the local Honda dealers but one are closed for the holiday weekend, and that dealer doesn't have one.



    Oh well, I ordereded one from BernardiParts.com for $52.64 (thanks New Dad New Van), which is about $19 less than the retail my closest local Honda dealer wanted to order me one.

    By the way, on the regulator, the part that attaches to the window and slides up and down the track is pulled up or down by cables. On mine, the cable that pulls the window up broke loose from this part. I fished a couple of broken plastic pieces out of the bottom of the door, but couldn't tell exactly where they had been attached.
    Well, UPS had delivered the stuff (also got new wiper blades, touch-up paint, and some ATF) by the time I got home from work Friday. Worked some on installation Friday night (until it was time to watch Monk and Psych with the wife) and finished up Saturday morning.

    No problems.

    Thanks again for the BernardiParts.com tip, New Dad New Van.

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    Sounds like a good deal there Dr. Mark.
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    Just had my driver's side window slide down into the door while driving tonight. Do I bother opening it up before I just order the new regulator?

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    Sorry, I have an '04 Ody with 80k

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    Originally posted by walrocker
    Just had my driver's side window slide down into the door while driving tonight. Do I bother opening it up before I just order the new regulator?
    Order one from Bernardi for a reasonable price and consider installing it yourself for additional savings?

    Good luck...


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    They roll at different speeds

    I have since (replacing the drivers side regulator with new one) noticed that the new regulator is rolling up and down faster than the passenger side one.

    I don't know if this means that the passenger side one is on its way out.. or the new regulator is doing its job faster!!

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    You might try lubricating the channels that the window slides in. It might also ease the load on the regulator and extend it's life.
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    Just tackled the job this weekend. Replaced the window regulator on the driver's side door. The old one was definitely shot. The window works like new now.

    My only worry is the plastic moisture barrier inside the door. Does anyone know what that adhesive is that holds it on? I tried to heat it up with a hair dryer so the plastic would stick better. Don't know how well it will work, but everything is put back together now.

    Thanks to everyone on this thread for your help. I estimate I saved over $200 by doing this myself.

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    Hi,

    I've got the Haynes manual and to remove the window glass regulator they direct you to remove the door trim panel. When you read the directions to remove the door trim panel they direct you to remove the power mirror. That isn't mentioned in this thread so I was wondering if that really needs to be done?

    Thanks,

    Tom




    Originally posted by New Dad New Van
    A good chance it is a failed window regulator ($51.51 Part #1 in this diagram http://www.bernardiparts.com/SearchR...0_017_0003.GIF). Otherwise check the 2 bolts that fasten the window to it and make sure the electrical connectors are plugged-in.

    Some relevant threads on the window falling in the door:

    2000 Power Window assembly question

    failed drivers power window
    Front Door Glass and Regulator Replacement

    Drivers window literally disappeared!

    Front Door Glass and Regulator
    Replacement

    1. Remove these items:
    Door panel
    Pull pocket bracket
    Power window control unit bracket, 03-04
    models drivers door
    Plastic cover
    2. Carefully raise the glass until you can see the bolts,
    then remove them. Carefully pull the glass out
    through the window slot. Take care not to drop the
    glass inside the door.
    3. Disconnect and detach the connectors, and
    for 03-04 models drivers door, detach the
    connectors from the door harness bracket.
    Detach the harness clip from the door. Remove
    the bolts and loosen the bolts, then remove
    the regulator through the hole in the door.
    4. Apply multipurpose grease to all the sliding
    surfaces of the regulator where shown.
    5. Install the glass and regulator in the reverse order
    of removal, and note these items:
    Roll the glass up and down to see if it moves
    freely without binding.
    Make sure that there is no clearance between the
    glass and glass run channel when the glass is
    closed.
    Adjust the position of the glass as necessary.
    Check for water leaks.
    For 03-04 models: Reset the power window
    control unit.
    Test-drive and check for wind noise and rattles.
    When reinstalling the door panel, make sure the
    plastic cover is installed properly and sealed
    around its perimeter.

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    No, I think you just need to remove the inside mirror trim panel (it just pops off) so you can lift up the inside door panel to remove.

    Come to think of it, you may even get by without removing the mirror panel, but it is really easy to remove anyway.

    Do not remove the side mirror for this repair.
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    Thanks New Dad,

    Ok, now I think I understand the issue. I'll leave the mirror on and just get access to the trim panel. I forgot to say I'm working on a 2003 Ody EX-L.

    Thanks again,

    Tom

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    I did this DIY last week on my 2003 EX-L front passenger door. It took me about three hours to complete, but I was trying to be extremely careful. Here are a few things I discovered during the process.

    I was using the Haynes Repair Manual and postings from this web site. I also do work on my BMW 323i and the Bentley BMW manual is much more detailed than the Haynes Honda manual. Haynes doesn't always tell you everything that would make it easier on you.

    The most important thing is you do not have to, and probably should not try to remove the glass from the door. I thought it would be best if I did and it wasn't coming out just by "...pulling it up and out" as the Haynes manual said. Thus I attempted to take the side mirror off and ended up breaking the plastic trim on the inside of the door and still couldn't get the glass out. No big deal, but it would have been nice to know it wasn't absolutely necessary.

    Do everything else, but just tape the glass up while you remove the window regulator. Also, the manual tells you to remove the negative battery terminal, but fails to tell you that you'll need to move the window so the window glass retaining bolts line up so you can remove them. As well as to move it so you can get a grip on it to move it up and tape it out of the way. Common sense, but if you follow their directions you'll have to stop and connect the battery again to finish the job. One big caveat with this: If you don't disconnect the battery there is a chance the side airbag will blow while you disconnect/reconnect the cable!! I suggest you do as they say and just spend the time reconnecting the battery.

    Somewhere along the line I removed a screw that was longer than the rest. I didn't notice this until I started putting things back together and to this day I don't know if I put it back in the right place. My fault for not paying attention to what I was removing. Don't make the same mistake.

    As instructed I peeled back the watershield. The adhesive (putty like) is strong so I stretched the shield in some spots getting it off. I just pushed it back onto the door with the same adhesive when I was done and I think that will be good enough. Next time I think I'd use a knife to cut the adhesive as I was pulling on it. That way you'd have some adhesive on the watershield and the door when you push it back together. Just a thought.

    After all was said and done my window still didn't go up as quickly or as smoothly as I expected. It was much better than before and I never felt it might just stop which is what I had thought before I changed the regulator. However, I sprayed some silicone on the felt guides and that helped somewhat.

    This should go without saying, but be sure to check that the speaker, window button, lock button, inside door handle, and seat heater switch all work correctly before you put everything back together the final time. I didn't forget, but I could easily see myself doing that on another day.

    Thanks for all the helpful postings on this web site.

    Tom

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    Good job

    I broke the trim panel too.
    I put it back in place. It does not fly off even if I if drive with the window rolled down on the freeway!!

    But I would like to replace that.
    Let me the part number if you can find it. Mine is probably same as yours .. since mine is a 2004.

    Also, it is absolutely unnecessary to remove the glass. Taping it is the right thing to do. Since you will have to tape to twice.

    All the way up, when you replace the regulator and somewhere in the middle when need to attach the window to the regulator with the 2 screws.

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    If you use the OEM manual it shows the correct way to remove the glass by rotating the back up and out which should be quick and easy and safer than having it hang precariously on tape. I quit using Haynes in the 60's as they were getting useless as the cars became more technical oriented.
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