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Wife saw engine oil light came on, got off on nearest ramp 1 mile or so down the road.

End result is a busted camshaft.

There was about 1 quart of oil left in the engine. Crazy thing is, it was still running when she parked it. Only 2 valves work due to the busted camshaft now. It literally split apart.

My father rebuilt his first engine when he was 13 and has never see something like this happen before.

There was oil coming out of the front and the rear sides of the engine.

I changed the oil and filter exactly 8 days before, so when driving to rescue the wife with my father since we were hanging out together when I got the call I had hoped I just didn't tighten the filter or drain bolt enough. Sadly, no low effort fix.

Cheapest option is to drop in a new used engine probably.

Spent $140 to get the Odyssey towed 40 miles to my uncles garage and there it now sits.

This seriously sucks and it's not like I'm rolling around in cash.

So I'm on the look out for a low mileage JDM engine to throw in it.

Anybody got any good leads on a place they have good experience with that aren't hell bent on ripping you off?

I wondered if a 98 engine is a good idea or not. I want something that's as painless as possible considering my father and uncle will be helping me and I don't need to piss anyone off any more than I need to be.

Perhaps we will discover exactly what happened when we yank the old engine out but until then I just need to source a new engine to put in and get it shipped.

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For starters, there's a "96-97" Honda Odyssey engine with 152k for $699 at an auto wreckers in Philadelphia, that runs well (they say).
It seems like you might want to look around for an engine with fewer miles, considering the cost to take out and install any replacement engine. Aren't there Honda engines available from Japan that have a guaranteed 40k miles or less that one can purchase in the states? They have a rule in Japan that requires owners to junk their engines after x number of miles. I would look into that.
If you like the vehicle (and who doesn't on this thread?) you might want an engine that will last awhile.

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Another one on Ebay

There's also an engine from a '98 Ody that needs a plastic intake (?) at an auto wreckers in Ontario, Canada 1-800-565-4606. It apparently has only 32k and they are asking $1,000 OBO.
I am not the mechanic on this thread, so I cannot address the possible issues that might come up converting between a '95 and '98 engine. I love my '98 Ody, that's all I know!

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to swap an engine from an accord? Seems like they might be a lot easier and cheaper to find.

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If you go with an accord engine you'll probably also need the engine computer as well since the camshaft on that engine is different (less agressive). Why not just open up the engine and see if there's damage to your pistons? If not, just replace the head.

I wonder why it snapped? Did the dizzy unit begin seizing up?

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East Park Auto Recyclers
They have Hondas and Acuras only.
Lots of low mileage engines with warranties
1-800-289-8733

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Well, it would be cool to just replace the head assuming the pistons and everything else associated with them aren't harmed.

But the general vibe I was getting was in the long run it will probably cost less to just get a new low mileage engine to throw in. Mostly because we do not know why oil was coming out of the front and back of the block. Looks like major seal failure.

Honda makes good timing belts though, enough to snap an oil depleted camshaft.

Question, since my vehicle is a 95, 96-98 are OBD2, right? So I would need a new ECU if I were to use an engine from a 96-98, correct? Would the exhaust on the 95 cause ECU errors, because I think OBD2 vehicles have an extra O2 sensor on the exhaust?

East Park has a 98 engine with around 65K miles for $750. That isn't too horrible. With shipping if I could get it delivered for a hair under $1K it doesn't sound like a bad deal. You know what I mean, I'd worry more about the Odyssey rusting apart rather than the engine with 65K miles.

My uncle actually originated the idea to use an Accord engine, but I don't want the Odyssey to be any slower than it already is by modern standards.

Up for any and all available comments. Thanks guys.

Edit: I don't suppose the engine mounts would be any different at all on the 95-98 engines since they all go into the same chassis eh?

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I think you should go ahead and get a used engine as well. You may have problems using a '98 since I am pretty sure the tranny is different as well. OBD stuff might be a pain also. Best bet is to find a relatively low mileage '95 engine.

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Good point on the transmission.

The current transmission is still in good condition.

I'm about to start calling around here in a minute.

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Good point on the transmission.

The current transmission is still in good condition.

I'm about to start calling around here in a minute.

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I can do that, I can reuse as much stuff as I currently have that isn't split or melted. I just need a new engine. All of my accessories are good.

I've been reading that if I do score a JDM engine and that is the plan that I might need to reuse my oil pump if it has a crank angle sensor.

My question is, since USDM F22B6's are for some reason more expencive compared to JDM F22B's found in Prelude Si's in Japan, what sort of effort would I need to put a JDM F22B DOHC non-VTEC engine into my Odyssey?

The F22B has 20 more HP. But I don't know if I'd need a JDM F22B computer? And who knows what else.

Should drop right in though and line up, I'd like to believe.

F22B at first glance appears to be the most cost effective route.

Anyone care to chime in and say I'm out of my mind? Criticism appreciated before I end up many late nights in the garage wondering what ever did I get myself in to.

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I'll chime in and say if your gonna make things a bit more complicated for yourself you might as well go all out and swap an h22 in there

My brother just wrecked his lude so it looks like a head swap may be in the future for my van sooner then I expected

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Well the F22B has been ordered.

Unfortunately my mother ordered the thing for me and I wasn't aware she was doing it and it's a F22B SOHC from an Accord.

So my Odyssey is going to have less power than before.

I am thankful yet depressed the same as I pay her off.

Can't say I'm particularly enthusiastic... at least I don't have to drive the damn thing if I don't want to. Very disinterested in my Odyssey now. I don't care at all about it anymore. Don't really want to downgrade. Anyone want a van? ... j/k ... but damn...

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Don't talk like that now. I'm sure it will be just fine. Hell if it's a lower mileage engine you might not even notice a difference in power.

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Can't you cancel the order? It's not like an organ donor replacement or anything where they are keeping the "organ" alive until you can take it. Just being nosy, sorry. And ordering the wrong engine for you is not the same, say, as giving you a necktie at Christmas that you know in your heart you will never wear. It is a big deal!
Let me phrase it another way: I find picturing a 1st gen Ody owner as being underwhelmed by his vehicle's replacement engine to be downright depressing. Most of the time we all LOVE to drive these cars. Less power seems like the wrong direction for a car that is already on the borderline.
Sorry!

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