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Class Action Suit for 2002-2003 Transmission Failure?

2002-2004 Ody transmission problems are quite common and it is well documented but the class action law suit that settled in 2006 covers vehicles from 1999 to 2001 Only.

When the class action suit was initiated (I think in 2003), 03/04 odys did not have much problems since they were relatively new and did not hve much mileage on the odo to exhibit this problem.

Since a good majority of 2002/2003 Odys have transmission issues, is it a good idea to initiate a class action law suit against Honda?

I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
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Yes, but only if I get 50% of your 40% settlement fees. Otherwise, NO!

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Originally posted by houody03
2002-2004 Ody transmission problems are quite common and it is well documented ...

Since a good majority of 2002/2003 Odys have transmission issues...

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Would certainly hold up!! Quite a few people have gone through this nightmare.

My 03 ody started blinking "D" light a few days ago. Dealer replaced pressure sensor as usual.

A colleague of mine replaced her transmission just a few months ago. She drives an 2002 Odyssey. Her vehicle started falshing "D" light a few months ago. She had the pressure sensor replaced about 6 months ago and then the transmission about 2 months ago.

So, we should be able to collect enough documentation.

Honda should extend the transmission warranty to cover atleast 2002-2003 odys. There is not much against 2004 but that should be covered as well given the history of this problem.

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Originally posted by houody03
Quite a few people have gone through this nightmare.

... should be able to collect enough documentation.

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Your case is starting to sound a little weaker. Better get your story straight.

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The last class action had to do with false odometer reading and extended the already extended warranty to 106k? If you know what you are doing, it's easy to get Honda to pay for a transmission in a 02-04 van. They even pay for transmissions beyond 100k. they only ask for folks to pay for labor. Why would we need lawyers to make a bunch of money off of this? Honda has addressed this problem quite well. They fired the transmissions designer and have come out with a new design. Now if Honda was being chicken do do about all this, then i say sue the bast....

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I bought my '02 Ody 6 months ago. Beautiful condition, 37,000 miles(!), certified (for 12 months - already replaced brake cylinder, no charge). So far, all good.
On the other hand, the vehicle is 5.5 years old, so all warranties expire in 1.5 years. If Honda specifically extended the warranty on transmissions to 100,000 miles I wouldn't have to worry about a known defective transmission problem for the next three or four years. Otherwise, assuming my tranny goes in 1.5+ years, I will be beyond the current 7 year warranty limit... an extremely troubling "achilles heel" in an otherwise seemingly reliable vehicle.

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egads,

Please explain how would you make Honda to pay for the transmission.

Why should I pay for the labor when its clearly Honda'a fault?
If Honda does not want lawyers to make money, they should extend the warranty to 2002-2003 vehicles also automatically.

I will review the settlement from the prior suit and I will post the salient points here.

I got my story right. Please post to this thread if you had tranmission problems with 2002-2003 odysseys.


Its sad Honda lost its edge on reliability. I have owned 1986-Honda Accord which ran for about 175,000 miles without problems. I also bought a 2005-Pilot.


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Dear Ody Owners/Honda Owners,

Please post to this thread if you had transmission problems with 2002-2003 Hondas. This problem exists across the board.


Thanks

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Honda is only asking folks with over 100k to pay labor.

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quote:

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Originally posted by houody03
Dear Ody Owners/Honda Owners,

Please post to this thread if you had transmission problems with 2002-2003 Hondas. This problem exists across the board.


Thanks

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Here's the granddaddy of five speed transmission threads:

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showt...p;threadid=8574

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Hi, I'm new to the forum and have an '02 Ody EX that has just started to show signs of transmission failure (slipping out of gear intermittently while driving causing the engine to race but there's no acceleration). How did you get the dealer to pay for the transmission replacement? We have seen some postings indicating they paid for it but have not seen anyone state what they had to do to get them to pay.

When I confirmed the problem by driving the car the other day and experiencing the problem my wife told me about twice in the same drive, I knew it was serious and likely needed to be rebuilt or replaced. My wife diligently searched the internet for any info related to this problem to see if anyone had experience this and see what was done. Wow were we shocked to find all of the problems with '02 Ody's. My neighbor bought an '01 Ody used and we just learned they had the transmission replaced last month at 90K miles and Honda paid for it under the class action law suit.

So far, Thursday morning, August 2nd, I called Honda and told them what was happening to see if they would offer to fix it. I was assigned a case number and told to take the car to the local dealer, have them check it, and report the findings back to them. Thurday, the dealer reported to me the transmission needed to be replaced at a cost of $3,550, but it would come with a 3 yr, 36K mile warranty. I asked if he knew what was wrong with it and he told me he wasn't sure. He said the check engine light was on because of a code P0730, which was an internal transmission fault, and when the see that with the symptoms I described, they just replace the transmission. Like he knew exactly what was going on but would tell me. I asked him if he could tell me what might be wrong and he said he didn't know without taking it apart, but he knew it needed to be replaced. He said there's a lot of them at the dealer now that are getting transmission work done. When I dropped the car off Thursday night at the night drop, I saw another mechanic there working on a car and told him what I was experiencing. He responded that Honda has a lot of problems with that transmission and they have problems with it. But then told me the car is still a very good car. I responded, "Not if you can't drive it!"

I called Hoda back yesterday, Friday and told them what the dealer told me. The case worker asked me why I thought Honda should participate in this. I told them I paid a higher price to get the quality of a Honda based on the reputation they had in the idustry and I feel that any of their competitors would have better quality than this. I told them this is not the first time that I had a Honda product that had trany problems. I owned a used 87 Accura that had the transmission fail 3 times in two years and it was failing a fourth time when I traded it. I expected better from Honda based on their reputation. They told me a case manager would review the case and get back to me on Monday, August 6th. I just want as much info and help as I can get to force them to pay for it.

I have also filed a complaint with the NHTSA, yesterday and they told me that there were over 120 other complaints registered so far. The said if they get enough complaints that they would investigate the need for another recall, so my suggestion is for everyone having this problem to register a complaint.

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Originally posted by TonyL-MD
Hi, I'm new to the forum and have an '02 Ody EX that has just started to show signs of transmission failure ...

I have also filed a complaint with the NHTSA, yesterday and they told me that there were over 120 other complaints registered so far. The said if they get enough complaints that they would investigate the need for another recall...

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TonyL - I noticed you've posted this message in only 3 threads. Just wondering how many you were planning on? Does this work with the NHTSA?
Seriously, anybody know how many complaints are enough?

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