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TX WJ
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Charleston, SC
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Hendrick Honda Is Pissed at the Low Score I Gave Them on Survey

Here is some of what I just wrote to Honda:


My wife and I bought a 2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L least year. It has been to Hendrick Honda for all of its warranty and scheduled maintenance work. Shortly after we got it, the DVD player would not eject or even play the Wallace and Gromit disk that was in the DVD player. When we contacted the dealership to schedule an appointment to get this fixed I was surprised that the first words out of the advisors mouth were, “Honda won’t cover this repair if the DVD was a homemade disk”. The fact that those lines were delivered in an accusatory tone made me think that was an odd response and not what I was expecting from a Honda dealer.

A few hours after we dropped off the van we received a call from the service advisor. She asked me who installed the Sirius satellite radio in our van. I informed her that I did. She said that the technician suspected that the install was the reason we were having trouble with the DVD player. I asked her how exactly a Plug and Play satellite receiver that is plugged into the cigarette lighter and broadcasts a FM signal so that van can pick up the signal and play Sirius on a unused FM frequency could interfere with the DVD player?

A few hours later we were called and told that the van was ready for pickup, when we got there we were told that they would need to order a new DVD player and that the old one would be sent to Honda for repair. The part took a week or so to arrive.

After that we did not have any more issues with the DVD player, and our only contact with the dealership was for Oil Changes and Tire Rotations every 5,000 miles. The dealer is great when it comes to scheduled maintenance.

Several weeks ago the Odysseys navigation system quit working, saying that the Navigation Door was open. We called the dealership to inform them of the problem and schedule a appointment for repair. We took it in and they informed us that they needed to order a part. It took two weeks to get the part, twice as long as they promised. We dropped the vehicle off, and the installed the new parts. My wife picked the van up and everything seemed fine.

A few days later, my wife called me to tell me that the Navigation System was acting strange. It was not showing her correct location. I told her to call the dealership and schedule an appointment. She left work and took it in that afternoon; they looked at it and fixed it.

A few days later we went on a trip to Baltimore Maryland that took us through Washington DC. On the way up there the Navigation system once again was acting up, not showing our correct location and giving us bad directions. When we finally arrived in Baltimore, I got out the manual to see if there was a way that I could correct the vehicle position so that the Navigation system would work. I then adjusted the vehicle position and we were back in business. This fix worked for less than an hour, and then the navigation system started acting strange again.

We got home to Charleston and called the dealership to schedule an appointment to get this fixed again (fourth trip to the dealer for this). They told my wife to bring it in. After waiting for awhile, she was informed that she would have to leave the vehicle so that they could diagnose the problem. She told them that was not possible since she has to go back to work. She called me to ask what I thought she should do.

I asked her to have the service advisor call me. On an earlier visit I told my wife to inquire about a rental vehicle. We had purchased a 5 year / 100,000 mile Honda Care Extended Service Policy. This policy pays up to $35 a day (7 days Maximum) toward a rental car when your vehicle is in the shop for a covered repair. She was told that they did not have Rental Cars. I thought that perhaps they did not understand my wife since English is her second language, so I thought that I might inquire about it again myself. Rick the service advisor called me back (about 9:30 - 10:00 am I think). I asked him if the dealership had Rental Cars. He said no they did not have Rental Cars. When I told him that I found that hard to believe he got defensive and started it is Honda Corporate Policy that we don’t have Rental Cars. I told him that I found that very hard to believe, I knew that for a fact I had rented a car from both Hendrick Dodge and Hendrick Chevrolet when my truck and company car were in the shop. I know for a fact that Hedrick has an arrangement with Enterprise Rent a Car. At this point he corrects himself, and say that they don’t offer loaners but that they do have Rental Cars.

Wondering if he is just new, I ask him how long he has been there, he informs me that he has been there for 3 years. Since I was not dealing with a new employee that was just unaware of the facts, I thought it best that I tell the Service Manager that he has a communication problem; this was second employee to tell me or my wife that they did not have rental cars. I asked Rick to transfer me to the Service Manager, he put me on hold and came back to say that the Service Manager was busy at the moment. I asked **** to have the Service Manager call me. I did not hear from him that day.

That night when I got to my hotel I went to their website (www.hondaofcharleston.com) to see if there was an email address for the Service Manager. There I could not find any contact information the web page said “Currently there is no staff listing”. I looked around some more and found the email address for ****** ******. I emailed him much of what I have told you so far.

The next day I waited until 4:30 PM for a call, either from my asking **** to have the Service Manager call me, or my email from the previous day. When I did not receive a call I called back and spoke with *************** myself. ******** was very nice, he told me that he had gotten my email and that he had spoken to **** and that **** was now aware that I was asking for a Rental Car and not a loaner. I told him that I had been disappointed so far with their service when we needed warranty repairs, he said that they were better at maintenance since that is what they do more of.

He said that he would be talking to the Honda rep in the next few days and that he would call me after they had spoken.

That night when I got home there was a survey from Honda on our service experience. I filled it out honestly and told the same story (in the margins) that I have told here. I left it on my desk after I filled it out, I was going to wait until this was resolved to mail it. I had filled it out honestly with what had happened so far. I found out later that my wife put it in the mail.

The day that the Honda rep was at Hendrick Honda I waited until 5:00 to get a call from the dealership, since there was not a call I called and spoke to ********. When he found out that I was across the street on business he asked me to stop by. I did and I found ******** to be as nice in person as he was on the phone. He told me that they would need to consult the tech line to determine what parts they might need to replace, and that they would order them and get back to us.

A few days later I received a call from ******* asking me about the van, I informed him that my wife drives the van. I gave ******* her work and cell numbers so that he could tell her to bring it in. She did and after waiting over an hour they needed to order some parts. The parts were supposed to be in today August 31, 2007.

Yesterday morning at 8:00 am I get a call from ************ , he tells me that the parts that were supposed to be in Friday would not be there until Tuesday. I told him that was fine. He then says, “You really hurt me with that survey”. At first I was not sure what he was talking about, and then he told me that he was “disappointed that he thought that we had worked everything out since he had called me”. At this point I am now aware that my wife must have mailed the survey in.

I told him that the only reason that we were talking was because of what I did. I asked one of his employees to have him call me, and then had to follow that up with an email. Then I still had to call him to find out that he did in fact get my email and that he had talked with the service advisor about it. I am not sure I would have known that if I didn’t call him. Then when he said he would call me when he spoke to the Honda rep once again I waited to the end of the day, and I called him.

His tone had changed and I could tell he wanted me to feel bad, I told him that I was sorry but that he had been given the score that they had earned. He said that it would be had to overcome a “20” since his average score is a “91” I told him that if this were an issue I could take my vehicle to ********** (**********, **) for service work, and he said that I could do what I felt I had to do.

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my04HBEX
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I'd tell them to just "Put on their big boy/girl undies and get over it". Sucky service gets sucky scores.

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jimbosc
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Registered: Jun 2007
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Surveys...

These surveys would be great if the dealers did not taint the results by coaching you how to respond - "if there is ANYTHING I can do to improve your experience tell me, otherwise put the highest response on the survey, OK??"

Yeh - those surveys help alot.

Bunch of crapola if you ask me.

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masterqi
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And if you have a truly bad experience at the dealer (and the dealer knows about it), there's a chance they'll fudge the address or whatever so you don't get a survey at all.

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HiVel
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I hammered the hell out of my previous dealer -which is no longer in business, they sold out to another group. I had warped front brake rotor issues and was not taken care of at all. I was even accused of lying by the service a-hole manager !! Unreal.
I am a senior citizen with long experience in the corporate world-never have I been treated so badly.
I must not have been alone because they closed fairly quickly- that jerk called me and told me I was the reason they did not get their service award for that year. right.
They are all gone and I still like my ACCORD. Love my Odyssey I got from a totally different dealer and hope this experience will be a better one. Complaints to Honda usually get some response although the ex svc mgr fought me all the way with Honda and they split the cost of new front rotors with me after 3 skim jobs and new pads. This guy accused me of
RACING my 4 door , 4 cyl, stock Accord!! Good riddance. Keep the pressure on. Right and wrong do not change.

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sixtn39
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HiVel,... hmmmm...Leeds, AL!

Got any inside connections to the Ody's Lincoln, AL assembly plant for future reference here at odyclub.com?

Ya know, someone who would be interested in some kind of remumneration for inside information when needed...

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back3earth
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If you just go ahead give them a good rating to be nice, it's a diservice to everyone. They will keep doing whtat they're doing. Thanks for your honest evaluation! This is THEIR problem or "opportunity to improve".

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HiVel
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quote:
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HiVel,... hmmmm...Leeds, AL!

Got any inside connections to the Ody's Lincoln, AL assembly plant for future reference here at odyclub.com?

Ya know, someone who would be interested in some kind of remumneration for inside information when needed...


I used to know the PA at the plant but he moved and I lost track of him-so, no I do not have a connection. Sorry

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TX WJ
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Wanted to give you guys an update, when we talked last week the service manager said that the parts would be there Tuesday and that he would call me when he had the parts, well I had no call so I called after 5:00 today and he had the parts, will take it in and see if they can fix it this time.

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Let me get this straight, they were suppose to CALL you when the parts came in, but instead YOU had to CALL them! I can see another HONDA survey going down in the sewers!

Stupid Dealer....

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TX WJ
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Took the van in Monday, at first they had trouble finding anything on it. Took 1 hour to drop it off and pick up a rental.

As of 6:30 PM Tuesday (when they called back from my message earlier that day) they had replaced both cables that Honda recommended, and still the van was not fixed. They say that they will call Honda today (Wednesday) to see what is next.

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The van is still at the dealer, got a VM today from the service manager saying that the parts that they sent aren't due to arrive until Monday now.

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I got a call last week from Honda from a Dave K saying that he had gotten my letter. I called back to him 3 times and left messages so that we could speak.

I called back just now and spoke with a lady telling her that I had not heard back from from Dave K. and that I guess he was gone, and perhaps someone else had my case. I gave her my Vin number and my name and she put me on hold. She said that he was on the phone, and that she would transfer me to him.

He got on the line and he said that the reason that he did not call me back was that he did not have my number? I aksed him how he called me the first time? He said that he had the number but it was wrong, and that he needed to update it. I told him that my number has not changed. The whole time I am getting the feeling this guy has not a clue what we are talking about.

Then he asked for the name and location of the dealership, I told him and since I referenced the dealers name, location and website in the letter I questioned if he had even read my letter? Then I find out that he is talking about another customer with the same first name as me, and a similar last name.

So then I said well Dave, you called me what's up? He said I just wanted you to know that I have your case. I said that is great Dave, what does that mean? He said that I would be calling the dealership on your behalf to get this solved. I said that is great Dave, so what have you done for me. He says I have a call into the dealership and I am waiting for a call back, you see when I call I have to leave a message and when they call they do the same, so we end up playing phone tag.

I said well Dave my van has been at the dealer a week now and this is the 5th time there for this issue, what are you going to do?

He said that he would call the dealership Monday.

Thanks Dave I think I would have been better off on my own.

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TX WJ
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Got a call late this afternoon from the service manager saying that my van was done. I asked him to make sure that they have entered all the codes and that we had them (last time they didn't) he said that they would.

I got a call from the service advisor letting me know that while my van was ready they did not a a receipt for me (warranty work) since they hadn't gotten a bill from the rental car company. I don't know how that is possible since we turned the car in last Tuesday.

I go to pick up my van, and they didn't enter in the code so I had to go back and get that done. I can't believe after a week of having my van they didn't wash it.

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TX WJ
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The van has been sitting since I brought it home, took it to the grocery store this morning and I open the rear hatch.

The cover to the jack is laying in the footwell. The headliner is pulled down a bit, the rear light is in the footwell and the wiring is hanging down.

You would think that if they had the van for 7 days they could finish the job.

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