Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Ajax, Ontario,Canada
Posts: 22

Hi all,
My 2002 LX, with 97,000km (3000km short of rust warranty), was found to have rust on the passenger door.
The rust has perforated through (!), and fortunately will be repaired under warranty in the body shop. It is located just under the rubber joint closest to the door hinge on the INSIDE of the door.
The rust was also present ALL ALONG the top of the inside of the door under the rubber. Unfortunately since it has not gone through there I'm out of luck.
There were tiny paint chip from rust on the driver door also, again not perforated.
The manager said this is his 2 or 3rd van he saw with the same problem and said Honda Canada is blaming it on Ontario salt in the winter.
The van was sprayed twice with Krown Rustproofing.
Since the rust is on the inside of the door I don't think it matters how much you put your car through a wash over the winter.

Wow, and I thought the last rust bucket I had from Honda was my old 1981 Civic, which literally disintegrated over one winter in an indoor heated garage. Here we go again with Honda rust, this time the van was parked expressly either in the driveway or in the unheated garage when heavily snowing.

Hopefully, the van will last until my extended warranty runs out, and I'm not left with a rust bucket. Funny enough, my 1999 Saturn with no rust protection has less rust on it than the 2002 Honda.

To add insult to injury, they need the van for 3 days, and will not give a replacement vehicle.

Check the INSIDE of your doors.....you've been warned.

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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: So. cal., Vta Cty
Posts: 125

The Ody's must not be too susceptible to rust as "search" didn't turn up much on the 2nd Gen. Odys.

There is however, a trap in the rear suspension tube that you in the rust belt should take a look at. Pull one of the real wheels and you'll see a tube about 1 1/2 inches in diameter which runs the width of the vehicle. There probably is some sand in both ends near the tires, which will hold water and keep everything damp for extended periods of time every time exposed to water - especially in summer if you drive in rain. I shoved the hose with an old, straight brass nozzle in and pushed it almost thru and pulled it out without it hanging up. Be careful tho, the tube has openings near the center of the body judging from the water flow and could "hang up" on a projection like a pistol grip nozzle. Blew about four table spoons of sand out total. Since this is a structural member, rust damage would be very ungood a few years down the way and the 99's are now eight years old. If you have a fair amount of stuff in the tube, be sure to clean off the far side wheel so there are no out of balance issues from dirt on the inner rim. Maybe pull the far side wheel and be sure the disk brakes are not loaded with sand.

Not sure I want to try and seal the tube with covers or by blowing some "foam" in there or just clean them out a couple times a year. This Ody group is a clever lot so I'm going to wait and see what other solutions folks have come up with.

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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 3570

Pictures of the rust and the rear suspension tube would be great if possible.

Some threads on rust on the doors:

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showt...;highlight=rust

http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showt...;highlight=rust


Personally, I think an after-market rust-proofing product such as Crown or Rust Check is necessary for long-term owner's like myself.

I have seen rust on the rear wheel wells of an Odyssey only. This area is also an area of concern for rust. Run your finger along the inside top of the rear fender and you will find alot of crap. This crap gets wet and traps moisture. A jet of water in and around the well will clean it out. This is often forgotten when washing.

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2001 Odyssey LX - WARRANTY WORK: top rubber sliding door gaskets, rear brake drums, clock light, driver's seat belt and EGR TSB performed.

UNOFFICIAL 2001 ODYSSEY THREAD: www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.p...4664#post384664

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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: So. cal., Vta Cty
Posts: 125

Ok, will take a photo and post it next week when we get home where all the good tools are.

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Registered: May 2007
Location: can
Posts: 83

Not surprising, most cars from Ontario that we see here in western canada that are daily drivers or are 4+ yrs, or 80K Km or older definately start shwoing signs of rust, degree of it depends on the care taken as well I guess.

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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1838

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Originally posted by fathom
Honda Canada is blaming it on Ontario salt in the winter.

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2002 Odyssey EX FG
Honda hood deflector, mud guards, Zymöl, Honda ATF cooler, Amsoil EaO20 oil filter, Amsoil synthetic 5W20, Krown rustproofing, block heater (gets cc...cold in Canada in winter!)

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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: So. cal., Vta Cty
Posts: 125

Here is a photo of the drivers side rear brake disk and the suspension tube just behind it. You can see a light powder residue which was easily wiped out. This is an 03 Ody with 120,000 miles which has been to mn several times in winter and it shows. The tube appears like it may have been coated with something to enhance its life but keeping it clean will insure a long life.

This is a very easy maintenance item anytime one or both rear wheels are off the vehicle.

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Registered: May 2007
Location: Kalkaska, MI
Posts: 6

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Originally posted by davedrivesody
Like New Dad said, anti-rust treatment is mandatory in this part of the country for anyone who plans to keep their van more than three years.

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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1519

Re: Re: Re: FYI Rust on 2002

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Originally posted by chadb
I am from Northern Michigan Snow Belt country and I don't believe in the rust proofing process at all. Every vehicle that I have seen rust proofed starts rotting from the inside of the doors and rockers. Hmmm... could if be because of the holes introduced by the rust proof sprayers? I am absolutely convinced it is. Rust always starts bubbling the paint around the plugs they put in the holes. When drilling the holes they are creating a point of weakness for water infiltration and exposing the metal edge of the holes. Even if it is galvanized metal - it is only galvinized on the surfaces. If you drill holes, you have just compromised the integrity of the metal.

Just stay away from the money trap of rust proofing IMO.

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