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Poll: Select the US Climate Zone you are from and response to Transmission Failure or not.

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    rushing1,glad you posted your specs. That stop and go is a killer. I always thought that style of driving is the worst. With drivers that do not abuse, and even in that heat climate...you are still over 200k!
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    there are few hills. The majority of driving locally is suburban 40-45 mph with a stop light every mile. Both drivers are easy on the van and come to a full stop when shifting from R to D (or D to R).

    We take several highway trips a year averaging 22,000 miles / year on the van
    That kind of routine is far from the worst urban driving pattern. Not the killer some other drivers have. Not uncommon to have stop lights every block in some cities. The owner has no choice but to let the transmission shift, wear and heat up if they live where stop lights are every block. Unless they run in 1st gear all the time. I bought mine new and changed with Z1 about every 10,000 miles before my 5 speed AT failed near 70K miles.

    Mine was failing at just about the time yours was getting more frequent ATF changes. Hope you stay lucky.

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    Originally posted by herrhaus
    DVP: Is it possible to correct the spelling error in the title of the thread?
    Missed this post. Done now.

    Forgot to ask the OP. Is it alright for me to vote in here for my 2001 Accord which has the same engine and tranny?
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    Today I rode in the 2000 LX that I have mentioned before in other threads. It was purchased used (from a Honda dealer in Altoona PA) in 2001 with ~30,000 miles on it. ATF was changed once at about 105,000 miles (by dealer). No auxillary ATF cooler. Now has ~212,000 miles on the clock. Original transmission.

    Altoona is in Zone 2.
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    just got back from the quicky oil change place (you are all cringing, right?) Well, I've had the 12 quarts of Amsoil tranny fluid sitting in the garage since last summer. This thread has convinced me (since the higher percentage of failures occur in the more extreme climates) more than ever that synthetic tranny fluid is going to help at least a little. My last change was a flush done by the honda dealer @ 45K, did the drain + fill @ 30K all with Honda Z1. I'm @ 66K now; the quickie oil change place just did the 3.5 qt. drain + fill with Amsoil (he only charged me 15 bucks!) and I asked to see the drain plug. Some sludge, but no big metal shavings like some others have shown. I hope to do another drain + fill to get the percentage of Amsoil higher at my next oil change on my 2002.
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    Just one drain and fill?

    Edit: While you were editing your post....I was asking my question....Anyway, how long until your next oil change?
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    Originally posted by herrhaus
    Just one drain and fill?
    today? yes.


    Edit: While you were editing your post....I was asking my question....Anyway, how long until your next oil change?
    next oil change is 1K away. I was debating driving around and coming back for another drain + fill of the transmission today, but the guy probably wouldn't charge me 15 bucks the second time

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    Why wouldn't he. The proceedure is more simple than changing oil. He ought to charge you less than that.

    1K mile intervals will not hurt anything. However, if it were me, I think if I was changing from dino based ATF to fully synthetic ATF, I'd want to just go ahead and get it changed over. Again, with that said, I still don't think it will hurt anything. They are compatable.
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    Originally posted by herrhaus
    Why wouldn't he. The proceedure is more simple than changing oil. He ought to charge you less than that.
    The price for a transmission oil change is $59.99, since I provided the oil, it was $15. That means he's charging $45 for the oil. Even Z1 isn't $11.00 a quart. I'd rather pay him $15 than do it myself.

    1K mile intervals will not hurt anything. However, if it were me, I think if I was changing from dino based ATF to fully synthetic ATF, I'd want to just go ahead and get it changed over. Again, with that said, I still don't think it will hurt anything. They are compatable.
    I hear ya. Even if I change it again, I'm still at 75% amsoil. Most of the folks here like to do 3X. That would get me to 87.5%, but even that is below Amsoil's recommended 90+%. The way I look at it, is I now have Synthetic blend in my tranny and that may be good enough.

    It's perfectly pink & clean with just the 1X drain & fill. I'll have the 75% well before the hot days of summer are here and that's good enough for me.

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    My Taurus tranny is drinking amsoil ATF. Runs great. Shifts are nice and crisp.
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    Originally posted by herrhaus
    My Taurus tranny is drinking amsoil ATF. Runs great. Shifts are nice and crisp.
    I take it you did the 3X drain & fill?

    I have the amsoil synchromesh in my accord - I notice a difference, but the honda stuff was pretty good too.

    I'm not one of those 100% synthetic advocates. A proper engine/tranny design should work fine with dino and correct change intervals. I do use mobil 1 in my cars, but only because I change the oil every 7.5K miles in the Ody and whenever the maintenance minder comes on in the accord. If I knew I would change the oil every 5K, I'd be fine with dino.

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    On the ODY, I did the full 4X drain and fill with Z1 (it went 60+K miles and was starting to smell burnt). It's probably getting time again for a refresh 1x drain and fill. I run the Amsoil engine oil for the 25K mile change interval (which I'm not sure is really ok to do). I'll be taking a sample when I change the engine oil in June and send to Blackstone to see if Amsoil is full of BS or not.

    On the Taurus, it's all synthetic. Again, for the same reasons (drain intervals).

    I agree with you. People get really concerned about "micron" levels. I'll tell you what, these things we drive are machines and are not calibrated to that level.
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    It is amazing how the stats changed this week, with zone 4 popping up as the second highest failure zone. Amazingly, zone 3 significantly has less failures at 18.1%. I would assume that as our mileage increase on these older Odyssey vans, so will the number of failures.

    Zone 1 - Failure 5 7.58%
    Zone 1 - No Failure 6 9.09%
    45.4% Failure Zone 1
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    Zone 2 - Failure 5 7.58%
    Zone 2 - No Failure 12 18.18%
    29.4% Failure Zone 2
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    Zone 3 - Failure 2 3.03%
    Zone 3 - No Failure 9 13.64%
    18.1% Failure Zone 3
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    Zone 4 - Failure 8 12.12%
    Zone 4 - No Failure 10 15.15%
    44.4% Failure Zone 4
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    Zone 5 - Failure 3 4.55%
    Zone 5 - No Failure 6 9.09%
    33.3% Failure Zone 5
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    Thought I would post a note to try and get more participants. If you have not done so already, please take some time out to respond to the survey.
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    Honda Odyssey 2001 197k - Original Transmission no repairs
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    I live in zone two. Use valvoline max life fluid. 105000 miles on original tranny. Do single drain and fills once a year. First one was at 43000 miles. Changed tranny filter at 64000.

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