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    Originally posted by williamhaas
    I would assume that as our mileage increase on these older Odyssey vans, so will the number of failures.


    As long as people come here, when their tranny fails. That wont be counting the people that just get in and drive their van, Dont care about knowing anything. Turn key and go. Never think about it. Or never go to car forums. Could be. That is the only problem. We are still looking for owners to report. And people like to share bad news. Just like the media..........

    Just like people too. The older we get , the more of us die...
    I once pulled my camper with the Ody, now my camper pulls the Ody!

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    Originally posted by williamhaas
    ...I would assume that as our mileage increase on these older Odyssey vans, so will the number of failures.
    Okay.....it's a noble attempt at gathering data, but heavily flawed. I tend to agree w/ odcouple.

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    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
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    Originally posted by my_dogs_ody
    I know of at least 4 owners who's trannies have failed, but have never thought of, or wanted to come to a message board.
    So it's flawed in both directions, in addition to a small data sample, and we don't know if one side is farther off kilter than the other.

    I believe the 36% failure rate reported here is low. Collecting data on this isn't easy...but all you really need to do is listen to Honda, who stated the problem was an epidemic..1.2millions units (not all odys, but all odys with this transmission were effected.).
    I read that, too...Edmunds? Can't recall the page, but I do recall it said the 1.2M units was for that tranny type, i.e., across-the-board, or everything that uses this tranny, regardless of model or gear-set (chosen ratios). 36% is low? I doubt the BYBA case coded trannies are even close to that. That would make it about the same as a Chrysler 41TE tranny.

    [i]...but it's important to hear both sides - at very least someone coming to this board looking for purchasing advice is going to be aware of what could be an "issue"...and having that knowledge before you buy is really what makes this board a great place [/B]
    Agreed.

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    Last edited by 0dyfamily; 04-15-2009 at 05:11 PM.
    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
    1982 Ebbtide DynaTrak bass boat, 200hp Merc, DIY re-fit 2006-07: CMC jackplate, Teleflex Canada Steering, Torque-Shift 14-26 vari-pitch SS prop
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    Just curious...since data sampling used to be my chosen profession (laboratory, physical organic chemistry)...how did we get 36% failure for the fleet? I still don't buy it. And at what mileage range does this wonderfully exact (ahem) number occur?

    Just seen too much trash science (e.g., Al Gore) and too many bad numbers (e.g., like those grabbed and used by politicians) and bad stat processes (like the one in this thread) to even consider these numbers any more than a curiosity.

    However, my wife did burn the hell out of our tranny (the ATF) at about the 55k mileage mark (towing a couple thousand pounds, slam shifting and spinning tires in deep mud with the trailer jack-knifed against the bumper to try and turn around on a frontage road).

    She didn't tell me, so I didn't have a chance to drain the fluid. We drove it in this condition for 1,000+ miles...towing that trailer. Couldn't believe the color (is black a color?) of the ATF when I did a drain and refill.

    I gave it about a 99.785% chance of failing by 61,282.5 miles. It's still going. Over 80,000 miles on the odo meow.

    So, meow I give it a 99.993% chance of failing by 90,114.3 miles, while pulling our boat up into the mountains.

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    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
    1982 Ebbtide DynaTrak bass boat, 200hp Merc, DIY re-fit 2006-07: CMC jackplate, Teleflex Canada Steering, Torque-Shift 14-26 vari-pitch SS prop
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    Exactly. It's a poll, and not a far-reaching one at that.

    We get Consumer Reports. Which issue was this 86% number? I provide sources when called on it. I'd like to see one for that. Sounds like an AlGoreIthm.

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    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
    1982 Ebbtide DynaTrak bass boat, 200hp Merc, DIY re-fit 2006-07: CMC jackplate, Teleflex Canada Steering, Torque-Shift 14-26 vari-pitch SS prop
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    Can't say I'm beliveing it's a CR number. No way the Ody could continuously make the "Recommended" list on CR year after year with numbers like that.

    Not doubting you've read it somewhere, but that somewhere probably wasn't CR. It does sound like something CD (Consumers' Digest) would spring up, though. They never, ever reveal how they come up with their conclusions as to what are "CD best buy" vehicles. They'll rave over a vehicle on one page, and on the next page is a full-page ad for the same vehicle. I doubt CD's objectivity, and their means of gathering data.

    As well, numbers like that 86% don't tell a good story without other numbers, like a range of total miles. Statistics are not too useful without proper context. As well, how do they count "failures"? A solenoid operated valve starts working intermittently...but it's expeditiously repairable. Is that a "failure"? I'm sure you understand the picture.

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    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
    1982 Ebbtide DynaTrak bass boat, 200hp Merc, DIY re-fit 2006-07: CMC jackplate, Teleflex Canada Steering, Torque-Shift 14-26 vari-pitch SS prop
    SNAPPER mower 5.5hp Honda

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    Just read the recent CR status of Ody trannies and 05's on have "reliable" colored circles....

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    Originally posted by 0dyfamily
    Sounds like an AlGoreIthm.
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    Originally posted by my_dogs_ody
    I have a feeling the 09's and 10's will have the most bullet proof drivelines the company has ever produced.


    Doesn't 07 - 09 have the same Ridgeline tranny? So, what's different between 07 - 08 and 09 - 10 to make their (09 - 10)trannies bulletproof? I would think it'd be 07 - 10 and not just 09 - 10.
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    Moved to the Poll forum to be fair to the other two folks whose polls were moved to the poll forum the other day.

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    2007 EX-L R&N, Slate Green with Olive (couldn't muster up the courage to trade my 1999 baby) ... Ours

    2001 Emerald Green Pearl Accord V6-LX (Replaced the POS Taurus) ... Hers ...
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    ..... Tranny strarted slipping only 8,414 miles after the replacemnt.
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    Had to go with zone 1, but car actually spent 1 year in KS, 5 years in AK, and the last 2in VA.
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    Originally posted by my_dogs_ody
    Just my observations - and it's very possible my #'s are high because people tend to sell vans with bad trans more than people who don't have trans issues.
    Bingo.

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    2003 Ody EX-L RES 188k miles, OEM fogs & hitch, bbylon5 screen mod, ckonarske fog mod#2, cnn 82C t-stat mod, Tru-Cool Max, OT1 ATF tstat
    2002 Ody EX RES 197k, Ditto
    1998 Accord LX 238k, Haynes 676 ATF cooler
    1982 Ebbtide DynaTrak bass boat, 200hp Merc, DIY re-fit 2006-07: CMC jackplate, Teleflex Canada Steering, Torque-Shift 14-26 vari-pitch SS prop
    SNAPPER mower 5.5hp Honda

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    FYI. The co-worker I sold my 2001 Ody to now has 210k miles on it. Same original transmission!
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    Past cars in the order of being sold:
    Honda Odyssey 2001 197k - Original Transmission no repairs
    1985 Mercedes 380 SE 182k/1999 Toyota Camry 150k/1995 Honda Passport 65k/1987 Nissan 300zx 2+2 130k/1990 Volkswagon Fox 132k/1987 Honda CRX 256k/1986 Dodge Daytona 187k/1976 Datson 280z/1976 Toyota SR5/1976 Triumph Spitfire/1971 Datson 240z/1973 Mercury Cougar/1965 Ford Mustang V8/1965 Ford Mustang V8/1968 Mercury Cougar/1966 Ford Mustang straight 6/

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    Update, the coworker I sold my 2001 Ody needed a transmission replacement at 234k miles. Lasted a long time.
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    Honda Accord 2008 v6 EX-L 22k

    Past cars in the order of being sold:
    Honda Odyssey 2001 197k - Original Transmission no repairs
    1985 Mercedes 380 SE 182k/1999 Toyota Camry 150k/1995 Honda Passport 65k/1987 Nissan 300zx 2+2 130k/1990 Volkswagon Fox 132k/1987 Honda CRX 256k/1986 Dodge Daytona 187k/1976 Datson 280z/1976 Toyota SR5/1976 Triumph Spitfire/1971 Datson 240z/1973 Mercury Cougar/1965 Ford Mustang V8/1965 Ford Mustang V8/1968 Mercury Cougar/1966 Ford Mustang straight 6/

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    Don't jinx me! My '02 has 232k on the original trans. Zone 1. Dealer maintained til I bought it at 153k. I thought I was treating it right, but shops I took it to only did 1x drain and fill. That changed once I found this website, about 210k; about 7x drain and fill over several months got it looking pinkish with just a touch of gray when wiping the dipstick on a white paper towel.

    Considering adding the cooler and magnifine now, as well as picking up a blown trans cheap and rebuilding it with the help of a local chapter of the Ody club. Parts are cheap. I think Ody is the most common make on the road here. There SHOULD be interest, lol.

    I do drive it sensibly though.

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