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new redesigned Odyssey brake rotors 2014

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#1 ·
had the new redesigned brake rotors installed on my 2014 Honda Odyssey yesterday.really hope that fixes the warping problem well have to wait and see.
 
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I am at 42000 miles and I just got these new "redesigned" rotors installed yesterday at my cost of ~$400. I had to have them turned at 16000 and 26000 which my dealer covered the cost.

I put a call into Honda corporate to complain. Ridiculous to have so much maintenance on brake rotors. Waiting to see if Honda will pay.

I really hope these new rotors fix the problem. If I have to pay, this will be costly over the life of the van.
 
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yes these are from the dealer was in the shop for the second time with warped rotors at 23000 miles and I said turning them will not fix the problem then said they had new redesigned rotors so they ordered them and had them installed a couple of weeks laterlooks like they made some huge improvements we will see
 
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Please keep the forum posted and let us know if you encounter any issues. When did you first get pulsations in your brakes? I have 11k on my 2014, with the older design, and it's still fine. But mine is more of a highway cruiser.

These are right off the fronts of the Acura MDX. My cousin has one and his fronts are this exact design with the cooling holds on the hat.
 
#9 ·
picture of the new redesigned rotors
Looking at the Honda parts catalog, 45251-TK8-A00 was superseded by 45251-TK8-A01 for the 2011-2014 Honda Odyssey. The 2015 Honda Odyssey uses part number 45251-TK8-A02. I wonder what the difference is between the -A01 and -A02.

Shannono:
Please reply with the part number from the dealer service receipt to confirm the above part number.
 
#10 · (Edited by Moderator)
Here is the Honda Parts Information Bulletin "New Front Brake Rotor 2011-14 Odyssey" with information on the change and differences between the -A01 and -A02.

 
#11 ·
Interesting that it says 'do not replace both front rotors unless it is necessary'. Why would you even tell a dealer that? I can see that with the increased thickness and new vents, they are clearly admitting to a problem with the rotors overheating and causing the brake pulsing
 
#12 ·
Its all about $$ and cents my friend. They don't want the dealers to go about replacing ALL the rotors as it hits Honda's pocket books. Corporate GREED is all this is.

Even if I was paying out of pocket, I would never replace just one rotor. I would always replace in pairs but apparently, Honda does not do that. They do the same with leaky struts as well. It ain't the same Honda we all knew back in the day. :)
 
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Is this covered under warranty? My '12 EX-L pulses at times. I'm still under warranty and if this is covered I would like to get rid of that pulsing brake pedal. The odd thing is that there are times when the pedal doesn't pulse.
 
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I have a 2014 with 14k miles and was recently on a trip and was driving on the highway down a steep hill at about 60mph and had to apply brakes and the entire car started shaking. We almost pulled over because it felt unsafe and the steering wheel was vibrating so bad and front end was shaking violently we thought we had a flat tire. It was only if brakes were applied. Once we got on even ground it subsided then went away but I am sure the rotors are warped. From doing research here I see it is a known issue. I need to take the car in for an oil change and was planning to ask about the rotor issue. Used to have a 2012 Pilot and never had an issue with the brakes (although had other issues with misfires). Curious if the rotor issue would still be under warranty? Just want to know what I should say to dealer when I go in.
 
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Melissa, the fact that you're going down hill only means you had to apply more force to slow down the vehicle. But even on a flat surface, if you pickup some speed and decelerate faster than you did down the hill then you should be able to reproduce the vibration.

The only time I had very violent vibration in a car was when I was driving my lifted Grand Cherokee and I experienced the good ole 'death wobble' when i hit a bridge junction. But that was related to caster and steering stabilizer. And that scenario is more of a 'it's all smooth / all hell breaks loose'. Warped rotors are generally noticeable based on the degree of braking you're applying. Anyways, just mentioning to help diagnose it.
 
#20 ·
Thanks OP. If it's covered under warranty, I'm going to start to pound on my brakes. Honda owes me a set or rotors from my last van that also warped really easily.
I can't understand why Honda is so cheap when it comes to brakes. They pretty much SUCK in all Honda's I've owned and driven in.
Try BMW brakes and it's a totally different feel and stopping confidence, even on a big and heavy X5.
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#21 ·
I have a 2014 Odyssey Touring Elite that the rotors were fine until I went to the mountains in Tennessee last summer. With 11,000 miles on the vehicle, the rotors started producing the vibration while braking. The local Honda dealer looked at it and said that they saw no issue. Just last week, the vibration has become unbearable at highways speeds and I took it in to the same dealer who told me the rotors were bad and needed to be replaced on the front along with new pads. The pads were still in good shape though. The van has 22,000 miles. I had to pay $520 to get this work done. They did upgrade to the new rotors. I called Honda and they told me this is normal wear and wouldn't cover any costs. Honda should cover this cost as the rotors should last longer than the pads. I have owned Dodge minivans in the past and expected higher repair costs due to lower quality and cheaper vehicle price. I don't expect these flaws in a Honda. I still really like the Odyssey overall but this rotor issue frustrates me. Hope this new part lasts longer.
 
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They gave me the same bull**** excuse too. They said its normal wear and tear and its not covered under warranty ( DIXIE HOnda ) . This happens to all the Odysseys i hope they fix it on the new 2018 model.
 
#22 ·
I will have to check my rotors to see if it's the newer version....I did notice the front rotors this time around lasted longer than usual (replace or machine every 7,500 miles on ours) - I thought it was the cooler temperatures. But we're due once again. We've had to replace the front rotors or machine them every 7,500 miles, we live up in the hills. We drive A LOT! Our 2013 purchased in December of 2012 now have over 100,000k miles, you can imagine how much we've spent. We've tried the various aftermarket rotors and pads, none seemed to have helped.

We're done with Honda after this. We've had brake issues with our previous 3 Odysseys and at 100k miles, I'm expecting the transmission to act up (it hasn't yet). But once it starts, we're trading it in.
 
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We've tried the various aftermarket rotors and pads, none seemed to have helped.
Safetywork,

Can you tell us what brands of rotors and pads you've tried so far? It'll help us figure out which ones to avoid. So far a few members seem to have had good luck with Frozen Rotors but the sample size has been very small.
 
#23 ·
Maybe this has been discussed already but i remember on my civic there was a specific sequence and stepped torque value applied to the lugnuts that needed to be done or the rotors were prone to warping. I had this issue after a tire shop overcranked the lugnuts with their air impact. Since then i have been doing the correct procedure with my torque wrench and have not had anymore issues.


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#25 ·
Apparently, Honda has been using these rotor in more of their other cars as well. I bought my TSX in for an oil change and walked around and saw that all the new 2015 TLXs had these new "hat vented" designs also. I didn't see them on the ILX but who knows when they switched over to these new rotor designs on the production line.
 
#27 · (Edited)
I just fixed my 2013 Odyssey's brake issues. I traded it in 3 hours ago on something that allows me to select the lower gears as I descend hills. I live on a steep hill, a mile long, and every time I left my house, the Odyssey made me curse and swear at the ridiculous transmission that doesn't allow me to select the proper gear. My rotors warped at about 12,000-14,000 miles. I pulled them off two days ago, got them turned for $30 at O'reilly Auto, and traded the steaming pile in on a 2015 Kia Sedona, which is a little spooky, but it has a 5-year warranty. ...just under 17,000 miles on the Ody. I don't recall if the rotors had the holes in the hat or not. There was plenty of pad left, but I can't be replacing rotors every 30K. We traded our 2007 Sienna for this Odyssey almost 2 years ago, with 85,000 miles on the original brakes. I got 130,000 miles on the brakes in my Corolla. We loved the Odyssey, but I stewed and fretted over the wear on the transmission clutches and the brakes from the STUPID SHIFTING!

Expensive lesson learned. Never again. Shame on Honda! On the plus side, we got $25,500 on the trade, so at least it had good resale value.
 
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I just fixed my 2013 Odyssey's brake issues. I traded it in 3 hours ago on something that allows me to select the lower gears as I descend hills. I live on a steep hill, a mile long, and every time I left my house, the Odyssey made me curse and swear at the ridiculous transmission that doesn't allow me to select the proper gear.
I know it's a bit late now but for everyone else there are at least two ways to go about it besides the ridiculously limited D4 switch:
- Let it speed a little and then give it a good long push on the brake pedal with moderate force. From what I've experienced, this is what it needs for grade logic control to kick in and downshift. I think it should be more sensitive but it can be made to do its job with some work.
- Use cruise control. I've used it on roads with steep hills and it will happily push the engine into the 4-5k rpm range to avoid speeding downhill.

I still hope the next model gets full control over gear selection. There are times I would like to drive through hills in 5th gear instead of having constant shifting. No matter how good they make the logic, it can never tell what's coming up like the driver.
 
#31 ·
Very nearly bought a Sienna this time over this trans select issue.

Fortunately for Honda, Toyota did an idiotic thing of their own on the Sienna: no transmission fluid dipstick. Fail.
 
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#33 ·
Dear hawkeye

That's where I warped our rotors, too!

I'm about to replace our rotors and pads. We have 34,800 miles on ours and most of our driving is stop-and-go.

I believe I'm going with Centric StopTech rotors (slotted but not drilled) and pads unless someone here advises against these.