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    Good luck with that we have a PAC hybrid for work and it’s been in the shop several times!

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    You have a valid point, CroMath, however, the OP was trying to decide between a Pacifica Hybrid and Odyssey. Comparisons are naturally a large part of that discussion . Normally, we wouldn't even be having this discussion because the previous Odyssey generations were far better. There is a valid reason to cast doubt now with all the issues with Generation 5.
    2018 Odyssey EX, that still has a rattly transmission. Honda says I can't have a compass, and to stop being so cheap and buy a cell phone with a data plan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodna View Post
    You have a valid point, CroMath, however, the OP was trying to decide between a Pacifica Hybrid and Odyssey. Comparisons are naturally a large part of that discussion <img src="https://www.odyclub.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" />. Normally, we wouldn't even be having this discussion because the previous Odyssey generations were far better. There is a valid reason to cast doubt now with all the issues with Generation 5.
    The funniest part of this is that the OP wasn't trying to decide - he or she had already decided. And then they came to Odyclub and created an account specifically to detail why they were probably never going to reach a post count of two.

    As I already stated (I thought clearly) there is nothing wrong with the discussion. It's just off-topic. You wanna talk Pacificas? Go for it - in the right place. Keep the forums clean so things make sense.
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    I appreciate the comparison between Odyssey and its competition. I have a 2009 I have been trying to replace for two years.
    I kept hearing problems with the 2018 transmissions, sliding doors, infotainment system, lack of rear air and other issues which
    kept me from buying a 2018. I also emailed Honda to ask them if they had resolved the excessive oil consumption problem I have
    had since my 2009 was brand new. Honda dismissed my concern but I began hearing similar complaints with 2018s. I began looking
    at the Toyota Sienna but I too found it too dated and noted it didn't have as good crash safety ratings. I have heard too many Chrysler transmission problems to consider the Pacifica and
    decided to wait and see if Honda resolved the 2018 problems in the 2019s. By this time, Consumer Reports came out and recommended AGAINST buying the Odyssey which has left me in the same boat- hoping Honda would clean up its act or that Toyota would come out with
    a new updated Sienna. I think mini van prices are too high to consider risking so much on a new vehicle without a real good reliability record.

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    Have you checked Consumer Reports for the reliability comparison (real statistical data, not anecdotal)?

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    I swear I didnt know there were actually people who bought chrysler products by choice. I thought they were passed on by family members or won in raffles at the dealer. The american fiat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technoman View Post
    hoping ... that Toyota would come out with a new updated Sienna.
    There's not much incentive for Toyota to invest in a new Sienna.

    First, the minivan market is in decline.

    Second, the present Sienna is selling fairly well.

    Have you considered an SUV to replace your 2009? There's a huge selection of brands and sizes out there due to their popularity. However IMHO, none matches the versatility of a minivan, so you would probably have to compromise on some features that attracted you to a minivan in the first place. Decisions, decisions...

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    You might should have considered that Chrysler and Dodge products are consistently rated the least reliable of all of the American auto makers. I hope you enjoy your decision over the long haul. I would not waste a minute looking at a Pacifica. My driveway has held only Honda and Toyota products since the 1980's. I have "never" had an issue with either. My current Tundra was made in Texas why my 19 Odyssey was made in Alabama. Where was your Pacifica made?

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    Spkmakr, you may be right about questionable Chrysler reliability, however, the 5th generation Honda has so far been riddled with a lot of problems, and its long term reliability is in serious question. We may now be no further ahead buying a Honda than a Chrysler product. The new Hondas are American designed and built, which means they no longer carry the good old Japanese quality of yesteryear. Many of us invested in the 2018 Odyssey on the basis that it was up to the original Honda quality. We got collectively screwed! Honda Corp is basically telling us to drop dead and most of the dealers are living this "We can't reproduce the problem, so it doesn't exist" fetish as a way of bailing them out of low-profit service work. When a corporate head office and its dealer network no longer stand up for their customers' needs, that company no longer holds the top place. The playing field has now been leveled my friend.
    2018 Odyssey EX, that still has a rattly transmission. Honda says I can't have a compass, and to stop being so cheap and buy a cell phone with a data plan!!

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    Honda, I feel your pain but must optimistically say that I have never had a problem with a Honda product that could not be "long-term" resolved. I am knocking on wood and asking the voodoo doctors to protect me..... My 19 with 3,200 miles has no issues to date. However I do see a pile of potential service bulletins and recalls. Luck of the draw. Ultimately I purchased for the long haul and am prepared to be a horrible nuisance and enforce "lemon laws" that exist should problems arise. However, you would have to hold me gunpoint to make me invest my hard earned dollars into a Chrysler/Doge product. I'm just not that stupid!

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    Switched from an Accord to a Clarity (with a brief period on an Outback) and could not be any happier. Specially since I charge at work for free. We've done a few 200 mile trips and been excellent.

    That said, for anything longer, we'll stick to our '18 Ody. Not sure I would have switched to the Pacifica PHEV, but if Honda were to make an Ody PHEV I would jump on it in a minute.

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    The Chrysler and the 9 spd Odyssey have the exact same transmission. They are both sourced from ZF and are one in the same. The software that controls them are different based on each company’s programming, but mechanically they are the same transmission.


    Quote Originally Posted by Technoman View Post
    Honda dismissed my concern but I I have heard too many Chrysler transmission problems to consider the Pacifica and
    decided to wait and see if Honda resolved the 2018 problems in the 2019s. By this time, Consumer Reports came out and recommended AGAINST buying the Odyssey which has left me in the same boat- hoping Honda would clean up its act or that Toyota would come out with
    a new updated Sienna. I think mini van prices are too high to consider risking so much on a new vehicle without a real good reliability record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CroMath View Post
    The funniest part of this is that the OP wasn't trying to decide - he or she had already decided. And then they came to Odyclub and created an account specifically to detail why they were probably never going to reach a post count of two.

    As I already stated (I thought clearly) there is nothing wrong with the discussion. It's just off-topic. You wanna talk Pacificas? Go for it - in the right place. Keep the forums clean so things make sense.
    In fairness, the OP posted on the Pacifica forums the exact same post except that he/she was going to choose the Odyssey over the Pacifica. I suspect he/she is trying to get forum members help him/her decide between the two.

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    Indecision is a horrible thing, especially when you must choose between the ZF 9-speed or the ZF 9-speed transmission .
    2018 Odyssey EX, that still has a rattly transmission. Honda says I can't have a compass, and to stop being so cheap and buy a cell phone with a data plan!!

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    Duh, I'll take the ZF-9.

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