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It's at the dealer. They say it needs a new engine. They found one with 80k and can install it for around $5500. Should we repair it or sell it for scrap? The sliding doors also have intermittent problems. :(

Would appreciate suggestions.

Thanks
 
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Well, you can get a used engine for around $1500 (look at Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market). And an independent shop can install it way cheaper than what the dealer is quoting. For $5500 you should be getting a professionally rebuilt engine, IMO. But that is a typical dealer quote for something like this.

What happened to yours? Was the timing belt changed on schedule? Depending on the damage you may be able to have a shop rebuild it, may only need valves. But, hard to tell until you tear it apart.
 
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Ouch. How many miles on the van? What sort of condition is it in aside from the engine? Also - how did they decide the engine was done? as pointed out above, a snapped timing belt can cause a wide spectrum of issues - if it's just a few bent valves, that's a whole lot cheaper to deal with than tossing out the engine!

Also curious how many miles were on the timing belt
 
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I've been trying to help out my ex. I think the mileage is around 210k. Timing belt was replaced approx 4-5 years ago, so it's done probably 60+ k miles. The shop says warranty is 12 months. All else is OK with the car, except the sliding doors making noises and not always working, and the dash lights going out all the time.

A broken timing belt is how I lost my Accord - bang on 60k miles after it was replaced.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'll call the dealer tomorrow to find out more.

Cheers.
 
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Unless you live in Phoenix, a timing belt should last 10 years or 105k. Here in PHX we have to change every 60k because of the dry and hot summers. That's a bummer.


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The breakdown of costs is:
engine/labor 2250
spark plugs 129
timing belt 69
timing belt tensioner 140
valve cover gasket 22
water pump 163
power steering belt 48
oil seals 36
upper rad. hose 18
lower rad. hose 19
thermostat 40
rad. fan switches 88
head gaskets 96
front splash shield with clips 102 (owner asked for this)
catalytic converter 388 (owner knew this was needed)

Labor total 2392
parts total 3611

She's torn between flinging it out and buying something else.

Taking it to another shop sounds like a good idea. I'll call the dealer in the morning for more details.
 
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Those are dealer part costs. You can probably find a shop who will do the labor for you if you order the same parts from Majestic or Honda Village, which have quite the discount on OEM parts.

You could also save by getting the Aisin Timing belt kit which is OEM and less than the branded one.


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jkayca said:
Sounds like a lot of work and expense for a 10 year old car. If you can get it repaired at a local mechanic for less then maybe keep it. My thought though would be to scrap it.
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That was my first thought, but the answer is always "it depends". If you still need another minivan, you have to weigh whether you can get an equal or better car cheaper.

If this car is otherwise perfect and well-maintained, you might consider a refurb engine.

2005 2006 HONDA ODYSSEY 3 5L ENGINE 83K MILES VIN 3 6th DIGIT VIN 4 8th DIGIT | eBay

Shows engines with less than 100K for anywhere from $810-$1700 plus shipping. You could pay a garage to put it in (there's a risk, obviously) for about $1000-1500 and be at a much better cost point.
 
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The car was being driven very slowly when the belt broke - probably not more than 20 mph. Is that likely to lessen the damage? The dealer hasn't taken the engine apart yet to see the extent of the damage; they seemed to just assume it would need a new engine. The tech was off today so nothing could get done. Thanks for all the replies.
 
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I'll venture to add to that and say 'It could take just a bit less than a 1/3 of a revolution to do damage' :D

$5,500 for Honda to swap the motor with a used one.
Get on cars.com and there's a load of 2006 Ody's for less than $5,500...obviously probably not in your area, but they're out there.
$5,500 for Honda to do. I'll go with the above and guess that a mom-and-pop auto shop would do it for less than $3,000, engine included, broken van in, fixed van out. Even the, lot of '06 Ody's on cars.com for less than $3,000 as well.

If it was me, ya, I'd fix it.
If it was me doing it for my ex, I'd cut a hole in the driver's side floorboard and tell her to go into Flintstone mode.
 
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Bill Ody said:
The dealer hasn't taken the engine apart yet to see the extent of the damage;
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One last thought. The damage may be limited to the heads (this happened to my wife with her 1984 accord about 25 years ago). In which case, replacing the heads may fix things. That may save you some labor.

But I would say to find an independent shop to do it for you. You'll get a more realistic price and be able to make a better decision as to what to do.

Good luck and tell us what you decide to do.
 
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Can't disagree with that one...
I jumped a timing chain in my Nissan a couple years ago, about 2,500 RPM, accelerating, GA16DE engine. I was quick to grab the clutch though as it was only the day after I got the car up and running from other work on the timing chain (which I messed up horribly :D ).
Only smacked the 2 exhaust valves on #3. The piston had the slightest bit of a ding in it from the valve hit which was easily smoothed over with a touch of a grinding stone on a Dremel.
On the other hand, broke a chain in a early 70's Ford 302 back in the mid 90's. Trashed the engine. More valves bent than straight, holes in a few pistons, dents in others, a couple just fine, and 2 bent con rods.
Not saying that's what's going to be found under the heads of the Ody's 3.5L, but the extent of the damage can vary wildly.
 
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