Parts Diagram help

BlackWillow · Oct 19, 2016

I'm trying to find the part # for the "ATM-7" on the Engine Wiring Harness diagram. I need the bolt size or part # for the harness clip shown but the diagram doesn't show it or link to another page. I've seen these call outs on several other pages. What does it mean when they give that call out, show the parts, but don't give a part #?

2006 Honda Odyssey 5 Door EXL-T (NAVIGATION) KA 5AT engine wire harness stay

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BlackWillow · Oct 20, 2016

Bueller?

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davedrivesody · Oct 21, 2016

I too have seen those callouts . I think they mean that the part is found on another page, but you have to locate the page manually. The ATM probably means that it's in the automatic transmission section.

Is it #27 in this diagram? 2006 Honda Odyssey 5 Door EXL-T (NAVIGATION) KA 5AT at oil level gauge - atf pipe

Dave

John Clark · Oct 21, 2016

Well done, Dave. I looked all over the diagrams for that harness stay and couldn't find it. I didn't look under "AT Oil Level Gauge - ATF Pipe" of course....where else would it be found? They wouldn't want to put it under "wiring harness stay." I didn't answer because I couldn't find it but was pretty sure it is probably the standard 10mm head, 6mm bolt used all over every Japanese car ever made.

davedrivesody · Oct 21, 2016

Thanks John. If a part is not found on a likely page, the only place left is all the others.

Yeah, the description says it's a 6x12mm bolt.

Dave

BlackWillow · Oct 21, 2016

That's it Dave! Thanks bro! I knew there was someone on here with the answer. I tried a 6x20 but it was too long. I'm still trying to find all the crap that my tranny guys failed to put back. They didn't bother with hardly any wiring harness clips, left my power steering hose loose and dangling, as well as stripped out the bolts holding the steering to the subframe.

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davedrivesody · Oct 22, 2016

You're welcome!

Your situation begs the old saying "If you want it done right, do it yourself". Myself, I would rather spend all day on my own repair than work one hour fixing someone else's mess.

Dave

BlackWillow · Oct 22, 2016

Thank God my good friend is a master honda mechanic....lol

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John Clark · Oct 23, 2016

BlackWillow said:
Thank God my good friend is a master honda mechanic....lol

Unfortunately, this doesn't always mean anything either. I'd rather have an "experienced" honda mechanic..."master" honda mechanic just means he took some tests and passed. He may be really good...but it doesn't mean the dealer is the best place to take your vehicle, either.

BlackWillow · Oct 22, 2016

This is what I found the other day when I took the van in for an alignment....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rkj0oht0cm99ioh/VID_20161017_162919166.mp4?dl=0

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BlackWillow · Oct 23, 2016

He's been at this dealership for over 30 years. But I'm not going through the dealership. Instead, he's able to work on vehicles at the dealership on Saturdays. So we work on the van together.

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John Clark · Oct 23, 2016

OK. There was a thread here not too long ago where a guy had done his timing belt. He buttoned everything up and had misfires and problems on one bank of cylinders. We went through every possible scenario, including the timing being off on one camshaft. He said he triple checked the timing marks and they were dead on on both camshafts. He also told me he had a buddy who was a master Honda mechanic who also checked it after he found there was a problem and said it was good. We went through some more brainstorming and troubleshooting here (we spent several days on this...checking injectors, coils, compression, leak down tests, and finding everything working correctly.) I finally came back to the fact that the camshaft being out of time HAD to be the problem. There was nothing else. He tore into it again and, low and behold, found the rear camshaft out of time. He's lucky he didn't have bent valves afterward. His Honda mechanic had checked the timing and told him it was fine. It wasn't.

I have many other stories like this of major id!ots at dealerships screwing things up and costing people tons of extra money.

BlackWillow · Oct 23, 2016

That sucks. I would have said the same thing though. It's got to be the timing. I used to help people troubleshoot their bikes when I was on another forum years ago. It's hard to convince some people to start with the obvious and work your way out. Unfortunately there are idiots everywhere these days. For some reason a common problem on the old forum was loose battery cables or a loose or corroded ground.

My mechanic is the guy you want. He doesn't beat around the bush about it. Here's what you got. Here's what you need to do. He is/was a top fuel funny car mechanic for a pretty famous local guy for probably the past 10-15 years. I'm not sure if he's still still racing or not.

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BlackWillow · Oct 23, 2016

John, did you look at the video I posted?

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John Clark · Oct 23, 2016

I did.

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