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ok, first off, yes, I'm a nut with more money than brains... now that's out of the way :)

I drive my 2010 Ody Touring every weekday and my Audi S5 on weekends... you can imagine what I feel like on Monday morning when I get out in the Ody... SO, what are my options for bumping the horsepower? I'm not looking for a 4.5 second 0-60 but I'd like to see a lot of cars in my rear view mirror!

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DerbyDad03 said:
Tow it with the Audi. :DD
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Ha Ha! My son and I were thinking of shoving the AWD drive and twin-turbo V-6 setup from the Nissan GTR in there (because we have the spare parts sitting around...uh huh... sure we do!)...

But seriously... nothing?? There have to be some Honda performance tweaks out there that will work!
 
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Get the VCMuzzler if you have an Exl or touring . The Ody will drive with more spirit . All 6cylinders will be at your disposal. It's only about $90
 
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I'm talking about hard acceleration and max performance which means that the VCM isn't active anyway... At least on my touring the VCM only kicks when when coasting or going down hill... so I can't see the point? I've read the forums and it seems that some people experience a lot of vibration or other issues with their VCM equipped motor - I don't - in fact, I never even notice it (possibly because I drive like a lunatic?).

Also, $90 for a 5 cent resister? Am I missing something?

Still look for *real* horsepower gains... :)
 
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lockon said:
I'm talking about hard acceleration and max performance which means that the VCM isn't active anyway... At least on my touring the VCM only kicks when when coasting or going down hill... so I can't see the point? I've read the forums and it seems that some people experience a lot of vibration or other issues with their VCM equipped motor - I don't - in fact, I never even notice it (possibly because I drive like a lunatic?).

Also, $90 for a 5 cent resister? Am I missing something?

Still look for *real* horsepower gains... :)
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ok, you had me at *real*. I will tell you Honda's best kept secret.
Get Red Type-R logo for the back of the van, thats good for at least 20whp.
 
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lockon said:
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Also, $90 for a 5 cent resister? Am I missing something?

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Going OT here, but since you asked...

A proper, reliable and climate-adaptable VCMuzzler includes OEM connectors to make it plug-and-play, multiple resistors of various values and the ability to easily change resistor values to account for prevailing temperatures and driving conditions. IOW, it's more than a " 5 cent resister". (sic)

Besides, you opened this thread by telling us that you have "more money than brains" so $90 shouldn't be an issue. ;)
 
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Look in TSM Pikachu's threads he has done some performance upgrades CAI. Etc . Try a K&N air filter . I do have the TYPE R logo in the back $5 from eBay. For me R stand for rejuvenated reborn because of the Muzzler.
 
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pappy said:
Look in TSM Pikachu's threads he has done some performance upgrades CAI. Etc . Try a K&N air filter . I do have the TYPE R logo in the back $5 from eBay. For me R stand for rejuvenated reborn because of the Muzzler.
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ok, thanks, will do. Our Ody is already the RS-5 variant so it's better that the Type-R ... the badge is good for 10hp... no... 30hp - verified with the butt-dyno... :D:D
 
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DerbyDad03 said:
" 5 cent resister". (sic)
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oh dang! and I'm an electrical engineer - seriously! I'll hang my head in shame now :redface: I'll just blame this on the spell checker :)

DerbyDad03 said:
Besides, you opened this thread by telling us that you have "more money than brains" so $90 shouldn't be an issue. ;)
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Ha ha! Touché! So true :) Honestly though, as I mentioned, I don't feel like the VCM ever gets in my way.
 
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The easiest way to increase performance is to lighten the load. Remove the seats you don't use, spare tire, etc.

When I was a kid in the Navy, back in the '60's, some of the planes we had used jet assisted takeoff (JATO), which is probably what you need, but seriously, you're pushing around a 4500 lb vehicle and what you want is not going to happen.

If you do a really good job and improve horsepower by say 20%, you're 0 to 60 times might go down by 10%!

That being said, weight has a direct relationship to acceleration. So lose some weight, and get rid of the seats.
 
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marvinstockman said:
When I was a kid in the Navy, back in the '60's, some of the planes we had used jet assisted takeoff (JATO), which is probably what you need,
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yes! yes! Anyone know a surplus yard with some JATO bottles? Will I get a posthumous Darwin Award for this project? :)

marvinstockman said:
but seriously, you're pushing around a 4500 lb vehicle and what you want is not going to happen.

If you do a really good job and improve horsepower by say 20%, you're 0 to 60 times might go down by 10%!

That being said, weight has a direct relationship to acceleration. So lose some weight, and get rid of the seats.
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aaawww... you're taking all the fun out of this! LOL! But, you are right... in one of TSM_Pikachu's write-ups he mentions this article and that's exactly what they did to get the performance up : The Temple of VTEC - Honda and Acura Enthusiasts Online - Articles - # 72: Building a Better Race Van

Well, I guess I'll have to retire the idea of having a 5 second 0-60 minivan :)
 
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I saw that it has more but Honda can't seem to get the body right... While reduced, the lightening bolt is still there plus they added a big dent on each side... no stow away middle seats... it's a non-starter for me. I run my cars into the ground - my '10 only has 80K miles on it so we have a long way to go still :)
 
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Muzzler really changes the driving dynamics there is no momentary hesitations lugging when accelerating due to VCM switching. Check the oil level make sure it's adequate due to VCM activations.
 
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lockon said:
....as I mentioned, I don't feel like the VCM ever gets in my way.
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Well this pretty much proves your initial statement in your first post about brains. Why do you post if you don't want to listen? VCM damages the engine any time it's active. Anyone wanting to mod their vehicle (even those not wanting to mod) should do this before doing anything else. Unless, of course, you like to replace $90 worth of spark plugs, $800 worth of engine mounts, and put in new piston rings. Since your 2010 is still under Honda's extended warranty for this problem (the rings) you would be under warranty for another year. However, since you're going to dump a bunch of aftermarket junk in there to get, arguably, a few more horsepower out of it, you'll likely void any extended warranty you may have.

You've gotten good advice already. Many don't even know about the potential problems and the very inexpensive and easy to install solution. Don't be stupid. Do yourself a favor and put the VCMuzzler on there.
 
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John Clark said:
Well this pretty much proves your initial statement in your first post about brains. Why do you post if you don't want to listen?
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Hey, chill out ... if you don't get self-effacing humor or humor in general then I'm feeling sorry for you.

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VCM damages the engine any time it's active. Anyone wanting to mod their vehicle (even those not wanting to mod) should do this before doing anything else. Unless, of course, you like to replace $90 worth of spark plugs, $800 worth of engine mounts, and put in new piston rings. Since your 2010 is still under Honda's extended warranty for this problem (the rings) you would be under warranty for another year. However, since you're going to dump a bunch of aftermarket junk in there to get, arguably, a few more horsepower out of it, you'll likely void any extended warranty you may have.

You've gotten good advice already. Many don't even know about the potential problems and the very inexpensive and easy to install solution. Don't be stupid. Do yourself a favor and put the VCMuzzler on there.
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So angry you are... look, I'm not spending any money on mods or putting anything aftermarket under the hood yet - that's exactly why I posted for advise and the conclusion was that there just isn't anything to do about the horsepower.

Going into this I essentially knew nothing about VCM except that it didn't seem to hinder the drivability of my van - perhaps other's experiences are different. I never once denied that VCM could have other issues on the life-span of the motor, etc so I'm just not sure what you are getting so upset about. Thanks to Pappy's and others constructive posts I was able to learn about the issue and have already found the 1% metal resistors (got it right that time!) in my parts bins...

Thanks for your 2 cents though...
 
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I'm not angry. It's just not real smart to say "VCM doesn't hinder me" when you don't even know what it is or what it does. It may not hinder you now but there's a pretty good chance it will since it has hindered so many. Just trying to save you the hassle which will do more than any other "mod" you can install. You can hack up your wiring harness and put your own resistor in yourself but that's not recommended either on a $400 engine wiring harness. I don't know where you're located but if you're in the rust belt or in a humid climate area you will end up with corrosion or broken wires and end up with a check engine light a year or two from now.

There's a reason the Muzzler sells well and it's not because it so well advertised. Those who know, know why it should be installed.
 
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