Oil Change Interval of 2016 Odyssey EXL?

sftong · May 21, 2019

Hello, I have been changing engine oil according to the maintenance minder with 0W20, and recently I discovered its RIGHT about 5000 miles interval between oil change.

So, the "xx %" reflected on the dashboard, is actually following 5000 miles? Or is it actually sensing the engine oil viscosity?

I know other SUVs using 0W20 would do oil change at 7500 miles, and some even at 10,000 miles. I wonder what is the recommended oil change interval of Odyssey 2016 EXL?

Thanks

parmm · May 21, 2019

Look in your owners manual for "Maintenance Minder". Should maybe be on page 65. You, or who ever changes the oil will re-set it when the oil is changed. It will tell you when to change it depending on the condition of the oil and how your vehicle is driven. Mine Maintenance Minder oil change interval usually runs around every 10,000 miles, but I live in a rural area with little stop and go driving. If is spend a lot of time running around in city driving, my interval is closer.

CroMath · May 21, 2019

There isn't a set oil change interval on these vans. The "right" answer really comes from the Maintenance Minder which watches a number of different factors to calculate the lifespan of the engine oil. Our 2015 seems to clock in anywhere between 10,000 km and up to 12,000 km (about 6000 miles to 7500 miles). I change the oil every 10,000 km because it's just easier for me to keep track, and it happens to agree pretty well with the Maintenance Minder. Once we reach about 10,000 km on a given OCI, our Maintenance Minder is usually showing 20% or 15%. That's close enough for me.

I'm old enough to have driven cars that needed the oil changed every 5000 km (3000 miles). And then that grew to every 6000 km (3600 miles) and then 8000 km (5000 miles) and now I have our Odyssey that says "Trust me - I'll let know you when it's time." I can't quite bring myself to fully trust the Maintenance Minder, so I use the feedback it gives me combined with the experience, knowledge and common sense I like to think I have to build an auto care plan that both the van and I can feel good about over the long term. So far, so good.

Ruthrj18 · May 21, 2019

15% warning pops up just shy of 6k miles for me. Very consistent as of 24k miles on the odometer.

parmm · May 21, 2019

CroMath said:
I can't quite bring myself to fully trust the Maintenance Minder, so I use the feedback it gives me combined with the experience, knowledge and common sense I like to think I have to build an auto care plan that both the van and I can feel good!about over the long term. So far, so good.

You can push most of your quality synthetic oils to 18,000 miles with no problems, but make sure that you are using a oil filter that can handle those miles! Just because the label says "Synthetic" does not mean the oil is real synthetic!!! You need to do you home work and find true "Synthetic" oils. Our stupid laws here in the USA allow anyone to claim their oil is synthetic. There are two main synthetic oil types available for purchase. Synthetic oil made from a base stock and semi-synthetic oil. Synthetics made from a base stock are created from one of three types of lubricants: polyalphaolefin, synthetic esters or hydrocracked/hydroisomerized bases. Semi-synthetic oils are a blended oil comprised of no more than 30% synthetic base. Synthetic oils typically create less friction and are more stable, often lasting longer than a non-synthetic oil.

egads · May 22, 2019

The oil change interval on a V-6 Odyssey before there was a maintenance minder was 7500 miles (12,000km)
Do keep in mind, you folks who w̶a̶s̶t̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶o̶i̶l̶ change it before the minder says 15% then the minder will not set the codes for
any other services, like air filters and trans fluid changes. There is a way to look for pending codes though, see your manual. It is far more important to be obsessive with trans fluid in a Honda than engine oil. Trust me on this, I have had and still have some very old Hondas that barely use any oil at well over 200k.

Feelings have nothing to do with science.

CroMath · May 22, 2019

egads said:
The oil change interval on a V-6 Odyssey before there was a maintenance minder was 7500 miles (12,000km)
Do keep in mind, you folks who w̶a̶s̶t̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶o̶i̶l̶ change it before the minder says 15% then the minder will not set the codes for
any other services, like air filters and trans fluid changes. There is a way to look for pending codes though, see your manual. It is far more important to be obsessive with trans fluid in a Honda than engine oil. Trust me on this, I have had and still have some very old Hondas that barely use any oil at well over 200k.

Feelings have nothing to do with science.

You're right in all of this - the ATF is more sensitive than the engine oil, and it's not completely rational to change every 10,000 km because I find it easier than just waiting for the MM to prompt me. In the case of our van, I think pushing the OCI all the way to 12,000 km would run the oil life monitor all the way down to 0%. Which again, given the right oil and filter combo, doesn't have to be a problem at all.

What can I say? God made me damn good, not perfect. ?

eksine · May 22, 2019

man you guys really all do have futuristic cars. they actually can measure the oil to see if it's worn out? how? I literally just check the oil and change it if I feel like it. I have an idea about the oil filter, just change the oil filter with whatever you want and use a small bottle of oil to top off the oil. but oil is so cheap it's better to just change it all. I overfill my engine oil by half quart and for now at least my transmission is overfilled by 1 or more quarts, as long as I don't see foaming I don't panic. I'll fix the level later though. our honda transmissions are not actually that fragile, a lot of them are flawed in that some thrust washers are not putting out enough oil volume, that's why they fail (design flaw). I still don't know why when some people switch to maxlife ATF their transmissions shift weird. I use that all the time and I am not seeing it. the only real worry other than if you have a flawed transmission is when the transmission gets older that main filter gets clogged so you should have another filter rigged up to take it's place if you want your transmission to last

DD. · May 22, 2019

eksine said:
man you guys really all do have futuristic cars. they actually can measure the oil to see if it's worn out? how? I literally just check the oil and change it if I feel like it. I have an idea about the oil filter, just change the oil filter with whatever you want and use a small bottle of oil to top off the oil. but oil is so cheap it's better to just change it all. I overfill my engine oil by half quart and for now at least my transmission is overfilled by 1 or more quarts, as long as I don't see foaming I don't panic. I'll fix the level later though. our honda transmissions are not actually that fragile, a lot of them are flawed in that some thrust washers are not putting out enough oil volume, that's why they fail (design flaw). I still don't know why when some people switch to maxlife ATF their transmissions shift weird. I use that all the time and I am not seeing it. the only real worry other than if you have a flawed transmission is when the transmission gets older that main filter gets clogged so you should have another filter rigged up to take it's place if you want your transmission to last

it's not actually measuring/sensing the oil in the car. It just uses an algorithm to calculate how long the manufacturer's recommended oil should last based on a number of parameters. Mine usually turns on at 15% anywhere around 6-7k and then I change it when I get around to it. It usually ends up being about 7500-8k when I get around to changing it.

I'm not a transmission expert, but I've always heard the fluid level is important and overfilling it can cause damage. How long have you been running it that way?

eksine · May 22, 2019

On my Accord I used the whole oil container (5 quarts) and it ends up being half a quart over which is how I like it and it's been ok for like a couple of years at least. I think the Accord transmission has been overfilled by at least a half quart for that same amount of time and it's okay. My Honda Odyssey I thought it was at the right level but I guess the fluid jumped up faster than I thought when I first filled it so I could have one or one and a half quarts overfilled. I just rebuilt it and I took it on a test run. I'm going to drain it so it's only half a quart. I don't know where you saw that it said that if you overfill your transmission that's really bad. When I researched it a long time ago it said if you overfill that you risk having the oil foam and that's what's really bad but if you run it over filled for a little bit it's okay and the oil should just spit out of the dipstick tube. did your research say why it's bad to have it over filled because I heard it from somebody else here too. Maybe it blows o- rings from Increased pressure? I'll fix it but I don't really believe that. all we have to do to prove it is somebody stick a pressure gauge to the transmission from and then see what the pressure is before and after you overfill it. The transmission has a bunch of plugged up ports in the front that you can stick gauges to to read the pressure

DD. said:
eksine said:

man you guys really all do have futuristic cars. they actually can measure the oil to see if it's worn out? how? I literally just check the oil and change it if I feel like it. I have an idea about the oil filter, just change the oil filter with whatever you want and use a small bottle of oil to top off the oil. but oil is so cheap it's better to just change it all. I overfill my engine oil by half quart and for now at least my transmission is overfilled by 1 or more quarts, as long as I don't see foaming I don't panic. I'll fix the level later though. our honda transmissions are not actually that fragile, a lot of them are flawed in that some thrust washers are not putting out enough oil volume, that's why they fail (design flaw). I still don't know why when some people switch to maxlife ATF their transmissions shift weird. I use that all the time and I am not seeing it. the only real worry other than if you have a flawed transmission is when the transmission gets older that main filter gets clogged so you should have another filter rigged up to take it's place if you want your transmission to last

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it's not actually measuring/sensing the oil in the car. It just uses an algorithm to calculate how long the manufacturer's recommended oil should last based on a number of parameters. Mine usually turns on at 15% anywhere around 6-7k and then I change it when I get around to it. It usually ends up being about 7500-8k when I get around to changing it.

I'm not a transmission expert, but I've always heard the fluid level is important and overfilling it can cause damage. How long have you been running it that way?

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