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#21 ·
tyman said:
So wait, the AAA guy put a jump pack on your van and it started?

Unpossible, DJVAN just proclaimed with his expansive and extensive knowledge as a mechanic for far longer than 40 years that they won't work on newer vehicles. Surely he isn't wrong?!
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You did say you were done. He did say he is done. Please stop both of you.

I think you BOTH were right. He never claimed that ALL of the jump packs won't work. Also. I am not taking sides here but you claiming to start a 2019 CRV is apples and oranges. CRVs come with a puny battery compared to Odyssey and the electronic load of the power doors and the entertainment systems and all the other cool toys in the Ody tips it over in my opinion.

I do own a 2016 CRV as well and the battery is small. Folks on the CRV owners club are talking about "upgrading" it to the same battery as the Odyssey and there are guides to even use our Odyssey's plastic battery box to house the said battery.

Basically, the OP's issue is solved. Lets get back to the normal conversations over here in the odyland. :)
 
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dvpatel said:
You did say you were done. He did say he is done. Please stop both of you.

I think you BOTH were right. He never claimed that ALL of the jump packs won't work. Also. I am not taking sides here but you claiming to start a 2019 CRV is apples and oranges. CRVs come with a puny battery compared to Odyssey and the electronic load of the power doors and the entertainment systems and all the other cool toys in the Ody tips it over in my opinion.

I do own a 2016 CRV as well and the battery is small. Folks on the CRV owners club are talking about "upgrading" it to the same battery as the Odyssey and there are guides to even use our Odyssey's plastic battery box to house the said battery.

Basically, the OP's issue is solved. Lets get back to the normal conversations over here in the odyland. :)
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Battery size is irrelevant in this discussion. They make jump packs for all sizes of engines. He specifically mentioned newer vehicles and them not working. I and other people directly refuted that.

I’m sorry but I’m not going to let someone post wrong info when I see it. Apparently that draws the ire of admins, so be it.

also, his quote is:
“Forget the battery jump start pack, everyone I have talked to said they are worthless on all new generation vehicles, they are meant for older vehicles…”
 
#23 ·
tyman said:
Battery size is irrelevant in this discussion. They make jump packs for all sizes of engines. He specifically mentioned newer vehicles and them not working. I and other people directly refuted that.

I’m sorry but I’m not going to let someone post wrong info when I see it. Apparently that draws the ire of admins, so be it.

also, his quote is:
“Forget the battery jump start pack, everyone I have talked to said they are worthless on all new generation vehicles, they are meant for older vehicles…”
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Awesome. Now that you have said your piece yet again, please stop. You won. Now move on.
 
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tyman said:
I was responding to your post that was responding to mine. Are we not allowed to have discussions on a discussion forum?
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We are absolutely allowed to have discussions on a discussion forum. Obviously that is why its called a discussion forum. But this particular issue is done. So, we drop it and move on before a all out brawl breaks out.

BTW. Saw your post in the rant thread. The picture was obviously a give away but day time, I am distracted as the stupid work gets in the way. :D

Thank you for your service.
 
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#26 ·
If you usually drive many short trips, the alternator will not be able to charge the battery fully, since the energy used to start the engine is huge. I always have a battery charger and charge the battery once a month in my garage.
 
#27 ·
A cheap jump starter won't work, you'll need one of those 500 to 1000 amp jump starter packs that those tow truck companies carry around. I even tried to jump it with another car and it was a no go. I bought the CAT brand one from Costco the other week and will keep that around until the next time I need to jump my Odyssey.
 
#28 ·
DJVAN said:
Forget the battery jump start pack, everyone I have talked to said they are worthless on all new generation vehicles, they are meant for older vehicles and as soon as it tries to crank the voltage will go straight to 0 VDC. Get yourself a new Battery, it will resolve all your problems, unless you want to jump start from anothe vehicl and leave it running for roughly 25-30 minutes and take it straight to the Honda dealer if you still have warranty left. And yes you can use the chassis bolted negative for jumpering, but the positive must go to the battery. Also insure that the ODY has everything turned off including the Stop button and doors/tailgate closed. These batteries in the GEN 5 Ody will not last but possibly 2-3 years and thats it! I cannot say the new battery will last longer because of the data and years in the ODY is limited. Perhaps in another 2 years it we will know how long a new battery will last (but Not Honda's battery)
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That is completely wrong. Jump packs work just fine on newer or older vehicles. If your battery is completely shot they won't work, but that is expected.
 
#29 ·
blueskynwater said:
The guy from triple-A who came out when I called honda, had a 3000A Noco. I ordered one today. Thanks
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It's great that you got your car started again, but did you figure out why the battery died in the first place? If not, it could happen again. I would make sure your battery terminals are tight.
 
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My 2018 Elite did the same exact thing. We were in Scottsdale, parked the car and flew to the Big Island in Hawaii for 4 days. Came back to it dead as a door nail. This was in Feb of 2020, exactly 2 years old and about 50K in. I had the extended warranty and the Honda dealer in Scottsdale AZ didn't give me ANY credit. I think they're using crap batteries from the factory. I love visiting Scottsdale, but I'll never go back to this dealer again.
 
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monty95 said:
My 2018 Elite did the same exact thing. We were in Scottsdale, parked the car and flew to the Big Island in Hawaii for 4 days. Came back to it dead as a door nail. This was in Feb of 2020, exactly 2 years old and about 50K in. I had the extended warranty and the Honda dealer in Scottsdale AZ didn't give me ANY credit. I think they're using crap batteries from the factory. I love visiting Scottsdale, but I'll never go back to this dealer again.
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The factory battery comes with a 3 year 36K mile warranty. My own battery was replaced shortly before the 3 years were up without any question/issue as it failed their test. Your problem most likely was the 50K miles. The battery is not covered in the extended warranty.
 
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adr5 said:
It's great that you got your car started again, but did you figure out why the battery died in the first place? If not, it could happen again. I would make sure your battery terminals are tight.
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Personally, I believe that the dealer did a software or firmware update on my Ody. while they had it for two hours. I now keep the rear AC off always and make sure everything is turned off when I am going to stop the engine. I bought one of the 3000A jump packs as travel insurance for my road trips.
 
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blueskynwater said:
I am pretty sure they did some updates while they had my van for 2 hours. I noticed things being different on my dashboard.
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Instead of being pretty sure, you can be 100% certain by checking it yourself by going into the SETTINGS and look for system update (you will need to have configured your Honda Wifi to connect to your home's Wifi first though).
 
#35 ·
Yes, you can jump-start the car from a pack or cables from another car. Most likely the battery has died. Odysseys are hard on batteries. If the car is still under the basic warranty, a Honda dealer can replace it for free. They should check the charging system. It is possible to have a bad alternator, but these usually only go bad when the spool valve for the variable camshaft timing system fails and leaks engine oil into the alternator below it. This is very rare on such a low-mileage vehicle. If you need to buy a battery, I recommend Costco which sells Interstate batteries with 3 year free replacement periods. You might consider the extra expense of an Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) battery for greater durability, but I've found that buying the three-year replacement conventional batteries and replacing them under warranty when they fail under three years is better financially. I test them every fall when we get the first frost and replace them before I get stuck.
 
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