TPMS warning after tire rotation

Yavne · Apr 21, 2022

Hello all,

Last fall the local shop installed winter tires on my vehicle (2012 Honda OdysseyLX), on the second set of rims. I stored the All season tires (on rims) during the winter in my garage.
Last week I installed the all season tires on the van, and rotated the tires.

On my next trip the TPMS sensor came up. Do you know if it’s expected behaviour? Is there a way to reset it myself (LX model)?

Thanks!

viper74656 · Apr 21, 2022

The Ody has to be reprogrammed (via the OBDII port) with the all season tire TPMS codes. Your tire shop probably did this on their own when the installed the winter tires and new TPMS sensors in the fall.

Only way to avoid seasonal reprogramming when changing tires over is to use a 2nd set of sensors that is "cloned" to the originals, meaning they broadcast the same code.

You can either take it to the shop and have them plug into the van OBDII to reprogram it, or buy a TPMS tool and do it at home. Unfortunately the OBDII relearn tools are on the expensive side. I use the Autel TS508.

Yavne · Apr 21, 2022

Thanks viper!

I didn’t mention, all season tires were programmed for my van (original sensors), and the shop cloned the winter tires/sensors from the all season. I drove all winter without any issue.

So I am back to original sensors now.
Does it matter that I rotated the tires?

kernel · Apr 21, 2022

Could the battery be failing in one (or more) of your original sensors? Not unusual to go dead after 10 years.

viper74656 · Apr 21, 2022

Tire rotation does not affect TPMS readings, so no issue there.

Yavne · Apr 21, 2022

kernel said:
Could the battery be failing in one (or more) of your original sensors? Not unusual to go dead after 10 years.

Possible… Is there a way to know which one?

kernel · Apr 21, 2022

A TPMS tool like viper74656 posted- or the tire shop should be able to see if they're working or not.

Yavne · Apr 22, 2022

Sorry, I don’t have any experience with it yet. Can I use cheap scanner to get TPMS details?
Like this one - $30

what should I look for?

kernel · Apr 22, 2022

Nope, that only scans engine codes. Watch some u-toob videos on TPMS. You'll see how the tool can read the sensors. Some can reprogram the TPMS ID like the shop did for your winter tires, and load the sensor IDs into the ECU. The tool that viper74656 referenced can read the sensors and program the ECU. There are other threads discussing different features, replacement sensor and tool recommendations, A recent one was created by our moderator @dvpatel.

Yavne · Apr 22, 2022

kernel said:
Nope, that only scans engine codes. Watch some u-toob videos on TPMS. You'll see how the tool can read the sensors. Some can reprogram the TPMS ID like the shop did for your winter tires, and load the sensor IDs into the ECU. The tool that viper74656 referenced can read the sensors and program the ECU. There are other threads discussing different features, replacement sensor and tool recommendations, A recent one was created by our moderator @dvpatel.

Thank you!

dvpatel · Apr 22, 2022

OP, you need the Autel TS508. I bought mine on the bay and it actually shipped from your country as the seller is a authorized Autel dealer over there in Canada.

That tool is cool. It will tell you which one of your sensors is out of the battery juice and it will also reprogram a new one. Since you have TWO sets and are clones of one another, your ONLY choice is to buy programmable sensor(s) and clone them again from the ECU. Autel can do that with Autel sensors.

The tire stores here in the US typically charge US $60 a corner to replace AND program the sensors so you're looking at about $240 + tax over here States side. Not sure what the rates are there but any good tire shop should get you programmable sensors cloned with your current sensor IDs if you are not the DIY type.

dvpatel · Apr 22, 2022

The thread @kernel was talking about.

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