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#41 ·
bugman said:

Just like most other consumer tricks - like rebates that aren't really rebates - 20k oil is a sham. As explained in the video above it's labeled as such because it CAN protect your engine for up to 20k miles, but (ASTERISK-- look on the bottle!) if you don't still follow the auto manufacturers specified oil change interval recommendation, if something happened to your engine, the warranty is voided.
So if you still need to be changing your oil every 5000 miles or so, what's the point of paying the extra money for 20k mile oil?
Man there are some real suckers out there.
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You sure seem to be stuck on just because something says X, that people have to use it like that. There are people that use 20k oil for only 5k or 10k miles, gasp! ;)

Often times, the longer extended interval oils will contain better and higher quality base stocks, less VMs, more FMs, and/or other AW additives that might be found in less quantities in a regular interval oil not meant for extended intervals.

Again, it's about choice and freedom, just like anything else. Stereo equipment, there's high end and low end. Guns, there's high end and low end. Tools, there's high end and low end. Why do you feel that motor oil would be any different?

Again, I don't run my oil to 20k or even 10k so I don't really give two craps about there being a 20k but I'm also not conceited and obtuse enough to tell others what they can or can't use...nor care what they use. You feel ST is the best bang for the buck oil, that's awesome. Some other people don't. Other people like Mobil 1 oil or Valvoline or Castrol or HPL or Redline or Amsoil or Motul or LiquiMoly or Honda or TGMO or Kendall or Pennzoil or QS or Rotella, etc.
 
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I had never mentioned 20k mile oil until you brought it up in your argument that SuperTech 20k mile oil had gone up in price, in your defense of buying Mobil 1. So I was wondering why you specified THAT particular weight of oil. YOU introduced it into the argument, not me.
You're also the one who said flat out that Mobil 1 is a better oil. I could give a crap what you use or how you waste your money. No one is telling you what to buy, but YOU most certainly are telling OTHERS what to get. Stop saying stuff in this thread and then trying to spin it around to make it sound like you have a problem with other posters in this thread saying stuff when it's YOU that's saying it.
 
#43 ·
bugman said:
I had never mentioned 20k mile oil until you brought it up in your argument that SuperTech 20k mile oil had gone up in price, in your defense of buying Mobil 1. So I was wondering why you specified THAT particular weight of oil. YOU introduced it into the argument, not me.
You're also the one who said flat out that Mobil 1 is a better oil. I could give a crap what you use or how you waste your money. No one is telling you what to buy, but YOU most certainly are telling OTHERS what to get. Stop saying stuff in this thread and then trying to spin it around to make it sound like you have a problem with other posters in this thread saying stuff when it's YOU that's saying it.
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Their 20k oil is their top of the line oil, akin to Mobil 1's EP oil, so I was using both of them in the comparison.

Odysseyraceteam mentioned in post #28, there was a Mobil 1 rebate so it was making Mobil 1 cheaper. I said nothing about it until he mentioned it.
I merely mentioned that if someone wanted to buy it, there was also a rebate at Oreillys, so they could get it even cheaper. Imagine being this angry at someone offering choices and a way to save money for people on an excellent oil.

Then you went off about some stupid pedantic "a rebate is not a REBATE SHAM DEBACLE!/11/" rant like a psycho. As part of that, YOU yourself said, "Why not just go to WalMart and buy the already much cheaper (and as good as anything else) SuperTech oil where you're saving money right off the shelf? When will people learn." so yes, you were telling people what to buy.

Then I said that ST's 20k oil, their top of the line oil, was now $26-27/jug, the same as M1 EP's, or if you use rebates, M1 EP's oil is now cheaper with rebate.

Then you flipped out again like a psycho.

And now, here we are, with you telling everyone on the forum that no one is telling anyone what to buy (you did), saying that I told other's what to buy (I didn't but merely offered a choice of getting a good oil even cheaper with rebate), not to mention that a 20k branded oil is not a "weight", it's an interval. A motor oil weight would be something like 0w20 or 5w30, not the mileage it's rated at.

tl;dr - literally nothing you've said is true and now you're literally making shit up.

:ROFLMAO::LOL::LOL::LOL:

ps. yes, M1 EP is a better oil than SuperTech's 10k oil. :cool:
 
#44 ·
Wow, man you really need to calm down and stop enraging yourself like a raving maniac in all your posts. We get it, you love Mobil 1 and are willing to pay anything for it. Even though SuperTech and dozens of other cheaper oils are just as good, you want to forcefully influence everyone's decision by lying about one oil being better than another. OK we understand, you have the mentality that because something is more expensive, it must be the best, even going so far as to ignore the fact that you're not really saving any money at all on the more expensive oil when the rebate is actually a gift card, NOT money off the actual product, thereby forcing you to purchase even MORE just to reap the benefits of said gift card.
Folks, the prime example of American consumer capitalist brainwashed misguidedness right here.
 
#46 ·
tyman said:
Yeesh, you really need to seek help.
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Let's review the mentality of this typical American consumer.
Tyman insists that Mobil 1, the most expensive oil on the shelf, is better than anything else. (Consumer pitfall #1: assuming a product must be better because it is the most expensive, with no proof whatsoever.) He also insists that a $10 O'Reillys gift card as a "rebate" somehow saves him money. (Consumer pitfall #2: assuming any special incentive program must lead to a great deal.)
Tyman spends the $30 on a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1. Then he sends off for the $10 gift card that saves him money. But, wait- he can only use that $10 gift card to save money on Mobil 1, if he buys ANOTHER 5 qt jug of Mobil 1. So, when he could have simply saved money up front on any other just as good motor oil, he ended up spending $50 total, because he HAD to buy a second jug to be able apply the one time savings to it. Not only that, but during the time it took to actually receive the gift card in the mail, Mobil 1 has long since discontinued their $10 gift card "rebate" program.
All this, when SuperTech and other just as good motor oils are sitting there on the shelf at everyday lower prices.
Pathetic.
 
#47 ·
OddyseyRaceTeam said:
Maybe I'm mistaken but back in the '90s when SuperTech came out, I was told then it was made by QuakerState.
I bought it anyway (laughs, Texas vs, Penn. oil rivalry humor)

I was a Havoline man as a youngster.
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Shoot, back then, it could have been made/blended/labeled by anyone. Shit was like the wild west in the 90s and early-mid 2000s.
 
#48 ·
bugman said:
Let's review the mentality of this typical American consumer.
Tyman insists that Mobil 1, the most expensive oil on the shelf, is better than anything else. (Consumer pitfall #1: assuming a product must be better because it is the most expensive, with no proof whatsoever.) He also insists that a $10 O'Reillys gift card as a "rebate" somehow saves him money. (Consumer pitfall #2: assuming any special incentive program must lead to a great deal.)
Tyman spends the $30 on a 5 qt jug of Mobil 1. Then he sends off for the $10 gift card that saves him money. But, wait- he can only use that $10 gift card to save money on Mobil 1, if he buys ANOTHER 5 qt jug of Mobil 1. So, when he could have simply saved money up front on any other just as good motor oil, he ended up spending $50 total, because he HAD to buy a second jug to be able apply the one time savings to it. Not only that, but during the time it took to actually receive the gift card in the mail, Mobil 1 has long since discontinued their $10 gift card "rebate" program.
All this, when SuperTech and other just as good motor oils are sitting there on the shelf at everyday lower prices.
Pathetic.
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You SIR are the one who needs to calm down. If you are truly American, you will understand the freedoms America offers. IF they want to do rebates, LET THEM. It is a free country after all. IF you don't want to do rebates fine. Don't and stick with ST. WHY is this such a problem. If you don't like one's post, put them on ignore.

Like I had mentioned in another thread, EVERY Oil thread always becomes a brawl towards the tail end.
 
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dvpatel said:
You SIR are the one who needs to calm down. If you are truly American, you will understand the freedoms America offers. IF they want to do rebates, LET THEM. It is a free country after all. IF you don't want to do rebates fine. Don't and stick with ST. WHY is this such a problem. If you don't like one's post, put them on ignore.

Like I had mentioned in another thread, EVERY Oil thread always becomes a brawl towards the tail end.
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LOL, he came after me first, but just like most administrators, you won't take the time to fully discern who started it, just take the more established poster and automatically assume he's the correct one. Anyway, your post here confirms that I was correct, since you just said the exact same thing I did above, which is I don't care what he buys. Just making a point with my last post since he keeps insisting that a gift card is somehow a money saver.
 
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bugman said:
LOL, he came after me first, but just like most administrators, you won't take the time to fully discern who started it, just take the more established poster and automatically assume he's the correct one. Anyway, your post here confirms that I was correct, since you just said the exact same thing I did above, which is I don't care what he buys. Just making a point with my last post since he keeps insisting that a gift card is somehow a money saver.
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Did he now? Now, you are ASSuming that I did not do my homework. I would strongly recommend you STOP responding to this thread and arguing with everyone.

You actually went after him first in post #32 with your "strawman's argument" comment to instigate the whole thing.
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Pennzoil 0W-20 Full synthetic from Walmart

At 98k mi, I'm due for an oil change. I've had it changed with Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic which has worked well. Walmart has Pennzoil full synthetic on sale and it posts the same API endorsement and specs but it's not Platinum. Honda's manual says to use any 0w-20 that is API certified is...
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Here is another gem #42: Pennzoil 0W-20 Full synthetic from Walmart

After that he responded. Before that, you quoted him thrice and he was still responding in a civil manner.
 
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I love how Scotty Kilmer is used as a supposedly valid source.
 
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Homerquest said:
At 98k mi, I'm due for an oil change. I've had it changed with Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic which has worked well. Walmart has Pennzoil full synthetic on sale and it posts the same API endorsement and specs but it's not Platinum. Honda's manual says to use any 0w-20 that is API certified is When I drain and refill some will mix which oil left in
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How often do you change your oil and filter? That IMHO is gonna be more important than the slight difference you’re noting above.
 
#55 ·
dvpatel said:
Did he now? Now, you are ASSuming that I did not do my homework. I would strongly recommend you STOP responding to this thread and arguing with everyone.

You actually went after him first in post #32 with your "strawman's argument" comment to instigate the whole thing.
www.odyclub.com

Pennzoil 0W-20 Full synthetic from Walmart

At 98k mi, I'm due for an oil change. I've had it changed with Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic which has worked well. Walmart has Pennzoil full synthetic on sale and it posts the same API endorsement and specs but it's not Platinum. Honda's manual says to use any 0w-20 that is API certified is...
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Here is another gem #42: Pennzoil 0W-20 Full synthetic from Walmart

After that he responded. Before that, you quoted him thrice and he was still responding in a civil manner.
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Really? That post he posted right before mine, where he "created" the argument to buy 20k oil to use it for 5k miles to avoid answering my question of why you would need it, just to then be able to act indignant that someone wouldn't get that, isn't an insult directed at me? And let's go back to my strawman argument comment. I posted that because he also "created" the argument that only 20k oil was being discussed (the only ST oil he could reference in the same price frame as his beloved Mobil 1) just to try to have a defense of buying oil that expensive. I had never once referred to anything of the sort. And in the same post he throws in the pay more for BETTER OIL comment, which is him insinuating that I am stupid for buying some other brand- again, another insult. If you're not picking up on that stuff, as an administrator who claims to do his homework, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Homerquest said:
At 98k mi, I'm due for an oil change. I've had it changed with Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic which has worked well. Walmart has Pennzoil full synthetic on sale and it posts the same API endorsement and specs but it's not Platinum. Honda's manual says to use any 0w-20 that is API certified is When I drain and refill some will mix which oil left in the engine.

As a frugal owner, I'm happy to spend $15 more on oil if it helps the engine life, but don't want to pay an extra penny on brands or labels of no real benefit. Does it matter if its Platinum or not? And can I change synthetic oil, non-synthetic or a blend of different brands based on what is on sale?
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I have used the Walmart brand Super Tech full synthetic oil for some time now. I'm at 109K and have had no oil related issues. Costco branded full synthetic oil is also a good low cost oil. I suggest watching the project farm youtube channel to see him test oils.
 
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