I am the original owner of a 2006 Honda Odyssey with 225,000 miles, I have been advised the transmission needs to be replaced. With the cost of used cars at very high levels I am considering replacing the transmission. Does this make sense? (This Odyssey is a Touring model with all of the factory amenities and is in good shape inside and out)
Replacing the transmission in a 2006 Odyssey
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I am the original owner of a 2006 Honda Odyssey with 225,000 miles, I have been advised the transmission needs to be replaced. With the cost of used cars at very high levels I am considering replacing the transmission. Does this make sense? (This Odyssey is a Touring model with all of the factory amenities and is in good shape inside and out)
On what basis has the transmission been condemned? How was the transmission maintained? Regular ATF changes? Consider getting a second opinion from a trusted shop.
(Pro-tip, if I have to ask more than 2 questions before providing advice, it means you never provided enough info in your original post)
225k with VCM enabled (I'm assuming) on the engine is tough as well. If you're confident in that (strongly encourage disabling VCM to prolong engine life) then I don't see why not. Just make sure you actually take care of the transmission so it doesn't fail. ATF changes every 15-30k, consider installing an ATF cooler (though if you don't tow or drive it super hard you probably don't need one, at 109k I don't have one, just ATF changes every 30k).
(Pro-tip, if I have to ask more than 2 questions before providing advice, it means you never provided enough info in your original post)
225k with VCM enabled (I'm assuming) on the engine is tough as well. If you're confident in that (strongly encourage disabling VCM to prolong engine life) then I don't see why not. Just make sure you actually take care of the transmission so it doesn't fail. ATF changes every 15-30k, consider installing an ATF cooler (though if you don't tow or drive it super hard you probably don't need one, at 109k I don't have one, just ATF changes every 30k).
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Thank you for your insights. With regard to determination of the need to replace the transmission comes from two aspects, one I cannot drive the vehicle reliably, the transmission doesn't seem to be engaging properly and the car shudders or lurches down the road, secondly my mechanic has advised me of two error codes being registered that indicate transmission failure (I don't know the codes)
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Absolutely Rebuild!!! I actually own 2 Odyssey's and they were both built in December of 2005 as 2006 models. One I bought new in March 2006 and today has around 340,000 miles on it. Both the engine and transmission have been rebuilt (transmission at 250k and engine at 280k) and I have no regrets.
In May of 2021 I bought a brand new 2021 Toyota Tundra 1794 edition and it is nice to have a new car, but within a month of having it I realized I actually liked the van better. So about a year ago I bought a 3rd car, a 2006 Ocean Mist Odyssey Touring with 90k. It was owned by an older man who kept it in perfect condition. I like having 2 vans so much I'd like another, but space is slowing me down on that for the time being. haha
Anyway, I tell you all this because even though these vans are older, they are still solid cars. The Green Van (with 340k) actually drives smoother and quieter than the Blue Van (with 90k) or the Truck (brand new). I buy cars for the long haul so if any of these vehicles need another transmission, I will rebuild without hesitation.
I also say that a new car payment on a cheap barebones car will still run way higher than the annual expenses I have spent even during the year of the engine rebuild ($8,000). You will always come out ahead by maintaining an older car than by buying a new one when you crunch the numbers. What it comes down to is the convenience of not having so much maintenance and the fear of the inconveniece of having unexpected repairs. Surprisingly though, it is not fear of getting stranded or left in a lurch or being late for an important appoinment that gets most people motivated to trade cars in. It is the unknown possibility of having an unexpected surprise repair bill that freaks people out. When you have an older car you have to keep an extra few thousand dollars on hand to handle the issues that pop up and that is something a lot of the world doesn't do today. When my engine and transmission went, there was no dramatic explosion that left me on the side of the freeway on my way to the airport to catch an important flight. The transmission triggered the check engine light and I took it in and was told I had to decide if I wanted to rebuild it. Then engine never actually went, it was just hemmoragging oil and towards the end smoking (I limped it for 10k before rebuilding, would not suggest). But the point is neither actually stranded me, they were just expensive. If you stay on top of the maintenance and recognize that all cars, but especially older cars, will need to have money spent properly maintaining them, you can mitigate an awful lot of the drama people associate with breakdowns.
If you live somewhere close to PA, let me know and I'd be happy to discuss transmission or engine rebuild shops with you. Also, when I got my transmission rebuilt I got a warranty with it. Either way though, my vote is definitly to rebuild and the fact you are the original owner of a Touring makes it even more important to keep.
BTW, are you still rolling on the PAX wheels? I still am, but I think everyone now has to switch over, even the holdouts like me. Grrr
Good Luck though!
In May of 2021 I bought a brand new 2021 Toyota Tundra 1794 edition and it is nice to have a new car, but within a month of having it I realized I actually liked the van better. So about a year ago I bought a 3rd car, a 2006 Ocean Mist Odyssey Touring with 90k. It was owned by an older man who kept it in perfect condition. I like having 2 vans so much I'd like another, but space is slowing me down on that for the time being. haha
Anyway, I tell you all this because even though these vans are older, they are still solid cars. The Green Van (with 340k) actually drives smoother and quieter than the Blue Van (with 90k) or the Truck (brand new). I buy cars for the long haul so if any of these vehicles need another transmission, I will rebuild without hesitation.
I also say that a new car payment on a cheap barebones car will still run way higher than the annual expenses I have spent even during the year of the engine rebuild ($8,000). You will always come out ahead by maintaining an older car than by buying a new one when you crunch the numbers. What it comes down to is the convenience of not having so much maintenance and the fear of the inconveniece of having unexpected repairs. Surprisingly though, it is not fear of getting stranded or left in a lurch or being late for an important appoinment that gets most people motivated to trade cars in. It is the unknown possibility of having an unexpected surprise repair bill that freaks people out. When you have an older car you have to keep an extra few thousand dollars on hand to handle the issues that pop up and that is something a lot of the world doesn't do today. When my engine and transmission went, there was no dramatic explosion that left me on the side of the freeway on my way to the airport to catch an important flight. The transmission triggered the check engine light and I took it in and was told I had to decide if I wanted to rebuild it. Then engine never actually went, it was just hemmoragging oil and towards the end smoking (I limped it for 10k before rebuilding, would not suggest). But the point is neither actually stranded me, they were just expensive. If you stay on top of the maintenance and recognize that all cars, but especially older cars, will need to have money spent properly maintaining them, you can mitigate an awful lot of the drama people associate with breakdowns.
If you live somewhere close to PA, let me know and I'd be happy to discuss transmission or engine rebuild shops with you. Also, when I got my transmission rebuilt I got a warranty with it. Either way though, my vote is definitly to rebuild and the fact you are the original owner of a Touring makes it even more important to keep.
BTW, are you still rolling on the PAX wheels? I still am, but I think everyone now has to switch over, even the holdouts like me. Grrr
Good Luck though!
Ask your mechanic what the codes are and report back.
I could at least do one ATF change and see if that improves things. You have to drive the van after each change anyway. Look at the condition of the fluid, is it burned? If you see improvement with the first change, then do the other two and see where you are. You can do these yourself and it will probably cost you under 100 for all three, a small investment to see if the transmission can be saved. As someone else said, use the Honda DW1 fluid.
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See this Honda bulletin, it's old and may not apply depending on what codes are stored but there was a campaign at one point that involved updating PCM software, if problem persists then to replace the torque converter. As others suggest in this thread, begin with a drain/refill of the transmission, use Honda ATF DW-1, part number 08200-9008, should take 3.3 quarts for a drain/refill. When you drain the fluid, run samples of it through a coffee filter to check for metal shavings and/or clutch material. Note the fluid color, transparency. Make sure you get those codes from your mechanic.
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I appreciate all the comments and support I have received. T
he transmission problem was identified in August 2022 and I have not driven the car since it was attended to by my mechanic. Yesterday I went back to my mechanic to gather information for the questions asked.
The transmission error codes were
0700 and 0741
I had forgotten that my mechanic also told me that misfiring was also occurring, which may have been the reason for the lurching and shuddering when I tried to drive the car. He indicated that he engine probably needs to have a valve adjustment, a service that is not uncommon once the engine has 100,000 miles on it.
I don't think this mechanic is trying to drum up business and I think I need to address the engine issue before I get hip deep in the transmission.
Any thoughts?
he transmission problem was identified in August 2022 and I have not driven the car since it was attended to by my mechanic. Yesterday I went back to my mechanic to gather information for the questions asked.
The transmission error codes were
0700 and 0741
I had forgotten that my mechanic also told me that misfiring was also occurring, which may have been the reason for the lurching and shuddering when I tried to drive the car. He indicated that he engine probably needs to have a valve adjustment, a service that is not uncommon once the engine has 100,000 miles on it.
I don't think this mechanic is trying to drum up business and I think I need to address the engine issue before I get hip deep in the transmission.
Any thoughts?
Same with me... I would like to keep this van as long as possible... I think RUST will claim the van eventually but I may keep repairing it until I have no choice but to get rid of it.
@Cntrtwnltd Hey, did you went through the de-PAX process? I have 2006 Touring, and need to move on from pax too. I have leaky tires, and its kind of urgent! I am in Montgomery county, so if you have any recommendations, I can drive. Discount tires seems to be the most common, but we dont have any in our areas. Most tire shops, even the expert ones, freaked out when they saw the Pax system. Please let me know if you had any luck!
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Rather than asking about de-paxing your '06 in a transmission thread, how about reading this thread which was recently updated? DePax - The Right Way! - Detailed How-To Article
And did you miss the 'sticky' thread in the top of this section?
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And did you miss the 'sticky' thread in the top of this section?
DePax Discussion(s)
https://www.odyclub.com/threads/07-touring-with-18-mdx-wheels-the-cure-for-pax.39044/ https://www.odyclub.com/threads/depax-the-right-way-detailed-how-to-article.46694/
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Rather than assuming that I have not read the other threads, how about considering that I found a neighboring netizen and was reaching out for local recommendations! Granted- not the most appropriate thread but the pax mention in his comment got my attention. So specifically tagged and asked him! Did not mean to derail the convo. Thanks for the links. Peace!
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I'm in the same position. 2006 Honda Ody EX-L with over 230k on it. Engine is strong but trans is getting a bit weird at time. I'm planning to have both trans and engine rebuilt when the time comes. I'm near you in NJ, so I'd love to chat about rebuild shops. PMing you...
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