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My independent Honda tech recommends that, when I replace the timing belt and the water pump, I also replace the oil seals (since essentially the same labor would be involved).

What do you think of this advice?
 
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FWIW, on the Honda V6 cars/ vans I have owned, the seals rarely leak. The 4 cylinders are different though.
Me, I would leave them. It is your call for the peace of mind if you want.
 
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CraniumNY said:
When everyone mentions the "timing belt", are they referring to the serpentine drive belt that powers the alternator, water pump, power steering, etc?
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No.
The toothed belt that drives the cams and the waterpump. Failure of this belt can result in internal engine damage.
 
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When I did the timing belt on my A6, I replaced the cam and crank seals. Not because they were leaking (they were not), but because they are very easy to replace with the engine that far disassembled, and the parts are cheap. It's the same logic that is used to justify replacing the water pump and tensioner. Of course the water pump and tensioner are more expensive than the seals. But failure of either the water pump or the tensioner can lead to timing belt failure.
 
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santoli3 said:
When I did the timing belt on my A6, I replaced the cam and crank seals. Not because they were leaking (they were not), but because they are very easy to replace with the engine that far disassembled, and the parts are cheap. It's the same logic that is used to justify replacing the water pump and tensioner. Of course the water pump and tensioner are more expensive than the seals. But failure of either the water pump or the tensioner can lead to timing belt failure.
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As I mentioned earlier, for whatever reason, oil seals on the V6 motors seem to last forever. The tenioner and water pump, not so much. I always change my pump and tensioner on my V6 Hondas, but on my 4 bangers, always do the oil seals when the belt is out. The seem to leak more frequently. hth:)
 
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But the cam seals cost $4 apiece. And the Crank seal is $6 (prices from Majestic Honda). For $14 I can't think of a good reason not to replace them once your there.
Now if your not doing the job yourself, I guess you need to ask how much additional labor they want to charge. Then it may not be worth it...
Another reason for owning all those tools ;)
 
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Hi,

I got my timing belt replaced recently (2 wks back @ Honda North, Butler PA)

It is a 2000 V6 Accord. ~101K - I know it is 105K u ;ve to replace it but as it is past 7 yr mark - went for it and bit the bullet (the bill i mean..)

They found the tensioner was profusely leaking and got that replaced also..

I thought it is time to replace the paltimum sprk plugs as well.. added that too..

then i was worried about the Tranny fluid - included that one also..

i am handy and would have bled the brk fluid myself.. but i dont have time nowadays.. - added that one also..


finally:

1. timing belt + water pump + new tensioner
2. tranny fluid replace
3. brake fluid flush
4. plat spark plugs for v6..

all togeather it was a ~$950 bill..

i love my accord... and want to put another 100k before i revisit this service again :)
 
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Man, a leaking T-belt tensioner could have put that engine out of business real quick! I know on some engines, you get some forewarning with a weak/failing tensioner. The T-belt will loosen slightly and *slap* against the T-belt cover, sounding like a knock. Over 100Kmi in ~2yrs?!? Does that car ever cool off? Being only ~2yrs/old I bet that T-belt and waterpump looked like new yet. Steady hwy cruising isn't tough on anything. Lots of cold starts, stop/go is.

Joel
 
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Grr... It was a 2000 V6 - I made a mistake telling it is a 06 -V6..

Apologies..


Also I believe that the tensioner leak was observed as they were taking the timing belt off - Could it be that just the process of removing timing belt caused the tensioner leak ? Or is it that I got lucky (where it would have been leaking already - and was caught just in time ?..)

Thanks!
 
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sriody said:
Grr... It was a 2000 V6 - I made a mistake telling it is a 06 -V6..

Apologies..


Also I believe that the tensioner leak was observed as they were taking the timing belt off - Could it be that just the process of removing timing belt caused the tensioner leak ? Or is it that I got lucky (where it would have been leaking already - and was caught just in time ?..)

Thanks!
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The tensioners on the V6 engines can leak with accumulated miles. They should have charged you only for the part and not any extra labor as it needs to be removed for belt replacement anyways. The $950 bill is not bad for all that from a dealer.

Here's to another 100K:cool:
 
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