As far as the 3rd row seat goes, it might not have as much legroom, but have you sat in the 3rd row of either the new Ody or Sienna? The Quest might not have as much legroom, but the Sienna and Ody both have major problems with their 3rd rows too. The Ody's comes from the arching roof line that makes the outboard seats feel very enclosed. The side windows are also very small. This is mainly because of the higher beltline and rounded off roof pillars.The sloping tailgate also doesn't help. The Sienna on the other hand has a very low ceiling. I walk around the interior of my Ody a lot and never really hit my head. My hair rubbed against the Sienna's roof several times in a few minutes. This was in an LE, which did not have a rear sunroof. The ceiling gets dropped another few inches when you add that option, and it comes standard on many of the higher end models. With that sunroof added, I can barely sit in the third row seat and run a finger between my hair and the roof. Also, the Sienna has problems with the side windows too. The problems here come from the door tracks that everybody keeps talking about. If you look inside the Quest, 3rd gen Ody, and even the 4th gen Ody, the 3rd row window's lower edge is about in line with the 2nd row. In the Sienna however, it sits a few inches higher than the 2nd row in order to accommodate those tracks that everyone is so happy to have incorporated into the beltline. This fact can be further supported by the window line in the Town & Country that also has the same issue. I don't like the way the 4th gen Ody's door tracks look, but I don't mind the 3rd gen's or really even the Quest's, but when given the option, I would pick 3rd row outward visibility over a door track built into the window line. This is also probably why the Sienna can't have the chrome lined windows. Those higher window's also make a frightening (at least for me) blind spot when changing lanes. Personally, I would ride in the back of the Quest before the Sienna or (new) Ody, simply because it isn't nearly as claustrophobic as the other two. I'm not saying the Quest has a superior 3rd row, but I can't really give Honda or Toyota all that much, if any, more credit on theirs.