[cauchy]

Dealer has offered $18,000 as trade-in for my transmission-challenged '00 Ody LX with 29,500 miles. For our troubles with the Ody, the dealer is subtracting $500 from MSRP on the purchase of a new 2002 Ody LX. This doesn't seem like enough of a concession for having had 18 months of transmission troubles. I'll need to come up with approx. $6700 (inc. tax, tags, etc.) to make the trade. I see 2000 Ody LX's with similar mileage selling for around $21,000. So, the dealer will make a nice profit on the sale of my '00 Ody (as if he didn't make enough when I bought it at MSRP) and will also profit handsomely on the sale of a new '02 Ody. I'll be contacting Honda Customer Relations to see if I can work a better deal. Meanwhile, any thoughts on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Cauchy

 

[cobra9357]

I think you should trade-in your 00 odyssey... And then get a 02... At least you don't have to deal with tranny trouble...


01 EX/stuffs
01 LX
S2000 antenna, Splash guard, add-on cd deck,
EX wheels, wheel lock, 00 Prelude wheels,
Leather mask, white gauges...


Jason

 

[indian]

Will your vehicle qualify for the lemon law? I would hound the dealer for more on the trade in and less than 500 under msrp for your troubles.

 

[blakeinhou]

You dealer is preying on the fact that you just might jump on it. He is not doing you any favors at all it sounds like.

 

[cauchy]

I am checking on the lemon law, but at first glance it does not appear to apply in my case. Apparently, you need four unsuccessful attempts to fix a problem within a single year. I'm thinking about shopping this trade around with the other Honda dealers in our area. Maybe somebody else will want the follow-on service sales and potential future new sales. I know this is an Ody Club, but if Honda is only going to gouge me, I'm also thinking about a Sienna. I hear that Toyota is dealing Siennas at well below sticker. They might also be happy to claim a former Honda customer. I'm well aware of the differences between the Ody and the Sienna, but I believe the Sienna would satisfy the needs of my family. I'm not sure what Honda Customer Relations will do for me, but I'll also talk to them this week. If anybody has another (constructive) approach to this situation, I'd be grateful.

Thanks,

Cauchy

 

[Aardvaark]

I don't have any constructive ideas for you, but if I were in your shoes, I'd never want to look at a Honda again. Speaking as a person with no brand loyalties, if the Toyota Sienna satisfies your needs, that's what I'd trade for.
Your experience and others has me keeping a close eye on the '02 Ody's new 5spd transmission and other owners experiences and may cause me to drop my '02 order and buy something else myself if the '02 transmission proves to be problematic. Maybe it's just luck. But I've never really owned a car or truck with allot of problems and I've owned many different makes in the last 35 yrs. It would be nice to maintain that record.

-Mark

 

[lucman2]

Just curious...why is it, that the transmission keeps getting replaced? What could possibly be going wrong with these replacement tranny's? Other folks don't have any problems with their original transmissions, yet yours requires replacement.

 

[cauchy]

Each time we have brought the Ody in, metal slivers have been found in the transmission. We think something else to going on, but nothing else seems to get checked out.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lucman2:
Just curious...why is it, that the transmission keeps getting replaced? What could possibly be going wrong with these replacement tranny's? Other folks don't have any problems with their original transmissions, yet yours requires replacement.</font>

 

[Jim F]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cauchy:
Each time we have brought the Ody in, metal slivers have been found in the transmission. We think something else to going on, but nothing else seems to get checked out. </font>

I'd like to get your service manager's name and number if possible. I'd like to interview them for the site. This is the worst case of tranny problems and I think it would be interesting to see what's going on.

What Honda dealer are you working through?

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Jim
'01 GG EX w/stuff
'93 Nissan Sentra SE-R with more stuff

 

[cauchy]

Jim - I am working with Heritage Honda in Westminster, Maryland. The main number to Heritage is 410-876-1540.

Just so I'm clear on this issue, my 2000 Ody LX is scheduled to receive a new transmission next week. This will be the third transmission in the vehicle - both the original and a second transmission have gone bad. I am not pressing them for details at this point because I have decided to sell/trade the Ody. I feel it is highly doubtful that the first two transmissions both came with flaws. I believe there is a very strong chance that there is something outside the transmission that is causing the failures. (Too strong a chance to remain the owner of the vehicle.) This would explain why the second transmission also went bad and did so very quickly. Thus, it is highly likely that transmission replacement alone is not getting at the root of the problem.

I will probably open a new thread soon to discuss my next dilemma - that is, do I really want to trade for a 2002 Odyssey?

Cauchy