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2005 ex-l oil leak rear of engine

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I would like start by saying thank you to those few that make this forum what it is. You guys know who you are and you have saved me plenty of money and headaches. I have been reading this forum for a while but this is my first post.

I purchased my 2005 ex-l back in October of 2019 with 108k. Dealer I purchased from supposedly changed timing belt, spark plugs, and did a few of the other 105k service items.

I learned about vcm issues after doing a few transmission drain and fills thinking my transmission was the problem. S-vcm solved all of that in about 10 min at 118k.

I now have 135k and a new oil leak. I keep on top of oil changes always between 3-4k since I have owned it. We live near phoenix and hate the heat so we end up going north often with alot of that drive going up through mountains, I figure that and the heat the earlier the change the better. I had never noticed my oil levels low until lastnight.

I was just about a quart low after draining. Looked around a little and saw oil on the rear of engine. There have never been any oil spots in my driveway, yet it was looking pretty oily on the undercarrage.

We drove about 1k last week full of passengers up and down mountains, I checked oil before trip and everything looked good. Is the spool valve gasket something that will slowly develop leaks or go all at once?

The first pic is from underneath the dark on the hose is oil running and above that I believe is the spool valve. Second and third are of rear valve cover and spool valve area.

I was trying to get better pictures from underneath but only managed to crack my phone when it slipped. If any of you have had a leak in this area and have any advice it would be most appreciated. I dont want to go changing parts on a hunch of mine. I'm planning on keeping this van for a while and want to fix everything as soon as it comes up.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you may have. If I left anything out, or over shared I do apologize.
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Thank you that video is perfect. I was worried that it was the rear valve cover and was hoping it wasnt. Is there any risk ordering the gasket linked on description from amazon? The shipping is a little quicker than rock auto. Or should I just head to honda for oem? I'm sure they wouldnt be too much more from honda. Thanks again!
 
#4 ·
Honestly, this is a part I'd probably go OEM for, assuming it's not prohibitively expensive. Check Majestic Honda and Bernardi Honda for pricing.

I'm not familiar with how to differentiate a rear valve cover gasket leak from a spool valve gasket leak.

Anyways, if you plan on keeping the car long-term, you might want to consider a valve adjustment soon (typically recommended on this forum around 150K). You'll have to replace the valve cover gaskets at that point anyway.
 
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So I called local dealer to see of they had the gaskets in stock, turns out they only sell the one gasket and not the internal. Sounded like they would rather sell me the whole assembly.

I cant seam to find the internal gasket oem from majestic or bernardine, again only the filter gasket and whole assembly is all I see. Since I'm not interested in buying the whole assembly does it make sense to buy the oem filter gasket and the set of two from amazon just for the middle gasket? Or roll the dice on dorman since it looks like a relatively easy change out.

I have looked into the valve adjustment just a little bit. I'm not sure if that is something that I would be able to diy or better off leave it to the professionals. I am slightly worried about my timing belt. No noises or strange behavior, I just dont have any way to prove it was definately changed before I purchased. They had reported changing spark plugs as well, which I pulled after doing the s-vcm. By the way they looked I am doubtful they had ever been changed.
 
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I do believe there are two gaskets relating to the spool valve --- one on top(?) and one internal. The top one is sold separately by Honda. The internal one, I believe, is not --- you need to buy the whole spool valve. I'm unsure if a new spool valve comes with both gaskets. I think my memory is correct here but I could be completely wrong.

Read some more threads to gauge the reliability of the Dorman or other aftermarket gaskets. My impression was that they don't last very long. I'd lean towards buying the entire OEM part.

I've read that the valve adjustments on the V6s are difficult since you're working in the blind on the rear bank. I would take it to a professional. I've never done one and wouldn't want to learn on a V6... if you screw it up, there could be very bad consequences.

The timing belt really should be changed soon if it hasn't been done. It's not really a good idea to roll the dice with this. Another member had a similar question recently --- feel free to either post your VIN here or shoot me a PM and I can try to see if there are any records of the timing belt being done on CarFax's maintenance tool.

Who reported the spark plugs being changed... previous owner?

You're right that the 2005-2007 VCM1 engines only have one spool valve. The 2008+ VCM2 engines also have a front one that we VCM1 owners don't.
 
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Oh, I just re-read your original post and you bought the car from a dealer, who claimed the 105K service was done. Was this a Honda dealer or just a used car dealer?
 
#13 ·
Is there a reason or cause of the leak there or is it just time and mileage related? If something internal causes the leak the best course of action would then be to change entire assembly.

I would rather a $30 fix over the whole assembly however I do only want to deal with it once. Did you do the gaskets on your personal vehicle buzzman? If so how has it held up?
 
#14 ·
Used car dealer of questionable integrity if I must say so myself. I was in a bind and needed a large vehicle for a trip across the country. It was a one previous owner low miles and in my price range. I bought it and next day left on a 6k round trip with luckily only a few surprises along the way.

I will PM vin now thank you for your help I really appreciate it
 
#15 ·
Ok, so this is interesting.

Can another forum member comment on what head cover gaskets are? Are these valve cover gaskets?

Your van has a good amount of maintenance records from CarFax and also on the Honda Owners site. Did the used car dealer give you a CarFax report when you purchased it? I'll try to compile a full list of maintenance records for you later when I have some extra time.

On the Honda Owners site, I see "spark plug" service at 100,415 miles. I assume they changed all 6. This was at Showcase Honda, not the dealer you purchased the car from. The two gaskets above were also replaced at this time (I think the diagram shows they are valve cover gaskets, but another forum member can confirm). The Honda site is vague, though, and I'm not seeing any indication a valve adjustment was performed at the same time. You could probably call the dealer and ask. This was on 8/18/2018 so they should still have the records.

I'm not seeing any records about the timing belt on Honda Owners, but CarFax shows the timing belt was replaced (also at Showcase Honda) on 7/26/2010 with 44,181 miles. Weird that someone would change the timing belt that soon. 5 years and less than 50K miles? CarFax isn't 100% accurate, but usually, if it's reported, then the service was done. Usually.
 
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I got a report from some carfax like company that had no detail. Basically had the number of service records and that the title was clean and clear. I really appreciate you taking your time to get that for me.

I am surprised that the spark plugs were changed that close to me owning. There must have been more underlying problems with the vcm than I thought to have them look as they did after only about 20k. I need to check them soon again as the new have about 10k.

Considering the early change of the timing belt that concerns me a little. What would cause someone to do this service so soon? And if it was done that early should I assume that only the belt itself was changed and not the water pump or tensioner? If the dealer I purchased from didnt touch the timing components I am definatly on borrowed time. Close to the miles but at over 10 years in the phoenix heat it is hard to believe it could be in reliable condition.

I want to stay on top of all preventative maintenance as I plan to keep hauling my family around in this van for a long time. Finding this forum is one of the best things anyone can do for their odyssey.
 
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I got a report from some carfax like company that had no detail. Basically had the number of service records and that the title was clean and clear. I really appreciate you taking your time to get that for me.

I am surprised that the spark plugs were changed that close to me owning. There must have been more underlying problems with the vcm than I thought to have them look as they did after only about 20k. I need to check them soon again as the new have about 10k.

Considering the early change of the timing belt that concerns me a little. What would cause someone to do this service so soon? And if it was done that early should I assume that only the belt itself was changed and not the water pump or tensioner? If the dealer I purchased from didnt touch the timing components I am definatly on borrowed time. Close to the miles but at over 10 years in the phoenix heat it is hard to believe it could be in reliable condition.

I want to stay on top of all preventative maintenance as I plan to keep hauling my family around in this van for a long time. Finding this forum is one of the best things anyone can do for their odyssey.
The Honda Owners record shows the spark plug part number listed as replaced. It doesn't say all 6 were replaced but I think it would be illogical otherwise. VCM would have only damaged/worn down the rear spark plugs, not the front ones. What was the condition of the front ones when you replaced them?

I wouldn't be concerned about the early replacement of the timing belt. The van's been running fine for 11 years since. It's possible there was an issue... One of my friends whose family purchased a brand new 2002 Odyssey had the belt and tensioner replaced in 2003 or 2004 with under 30K miles according to the service records I found. I never asked her about it... it was her dad's van anyway, so she would have had no idea. They kept it until 140K miles before selling it. I assume the tensioner was probably making noise on their '02, so it got replaced. On yours, given how diligent the previous owner seemed to be about maintenance, perhaps the dealer simply convinced the PO it was a good idea to get it changed. Dealers recommend services all the time, and lots of people bite.

At 11 years and 90K miles, I don't think it's super urgent that you get the timing belt replaced immediately, but definitely get it done soon. May as well do it soon, the next belt will take you to 250K miles. I recommend the Aisin timing belt kit --- it's OEM for all intensive purposes and is the only "aftermarket" brand that has a reliable water pump. It's not even really aftermarket, Aisin is the OEM supplier of water pumps to Toyotas and certain Hondas as well. Buy it from RockAuto, don't get it from Amazon or Ebay since there are a lot of fakes. It comes with the tensioner, water pump, tensioner and idler bearings.
 
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#18 ·
Thanks that looks pretty painless. The part number from the video description is same front and rear correct?

On a side note your videos are some of the most helpful I have ever watched for fixing my van. The typed descriptions are key. I am able to pause and read rather than keep rewinding to try and hear important tips.
 
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Thanks that looks pretty painless. The part number from the video description is same front and rear correct?

On a side note your videos are some of the most helpful I have ever watched for fixing my van. The typed descriptions are key. I am able to pause and read rather than keep rewinding to try and hear important tips.
Yes same part for front/rear camshaft cover seals.
 
#21 ·
The back three were pretty bad looking. I know the fronts looked better but I remember them still looking worn. I might still have the old ones in my garage. I have a bad habit of pileing up old parts on my shelves. I'm glad that the previous owners did maintain it well. Most issues I have had are normal due to age. Power steering hose leak, rear shocks, sway bar links, and rear power sliding door issues.

That makes me feel alot better about the timing belt. I hadn't herd any noises or noticed anything weird with it but I have read a few horror stories that I would like to avoid writing. I will keep that service on the front of my mind but won't stress too bad, maybe this summer.

I was hoping to have time this afternoon to get to the leak, but you know how that goes. I have the gaskets waiting to be picked up at NAPA going to do that rear cam seal while I am back there as well.
 
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DateOdometerService FacilityService(s) Performed - per CarFaxService(s) Performed - per HondaPart(s) Replaced - per Honda
08/05/2020124,699miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
10/02/2019108,742miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
02/09/2019105,000miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
01/24/2019104,439miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changedPREMIUM OIL CHANGE43022-SHJ-415PAD SET; RR-
Rear brake pads replaced34906-ST5-003BULB (12V 21W/5W)
Brake rotor(s) resurfacedHONDA GENUINE OIL | FILTER; OIL | WASHER; DRAIN (14MM)
08/21/2018100,415miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changedSEMI-SYNTHETIC OIL CHANGE17670-SHJ-A31CAP; FUEL FILLER
9807B-5517WS/PLG (IZFR5K11)
12341-RCA-A01GASKET; HEAD COVER
12351-RDV-J00GSKT; RR- HEAD COVER
37260-PZA-003SENSOR; OIL PRESSURE
91319-PAA-A01O-RING (13X1-5)
HONDA GENUINE OIL | FILTER; OIL | WASHER; DRAIN (14MM)
05/28/2018N/AService FacilityWindshield repaired
03/29/201897,171miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Front brake pads replacedSEMI-SYNTHETIC OIL CHANGE19501-RGL-A00HOSE; WATER (UPPER)
Brake rotor(s) resurfaced19502-RGL-A00HOSE; WATER (LOWER)
Oil and filter changed45022-SHJ-415PAD SET; FR-
OL999-9011COOLANT (TYPE-2)
HONDA GENUINE OIL | FILTER; OIL | WASHER; DRAIN (14MM)
02/11/2018N/AService FacilityWindshield replaced
07/12/201790,000miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Four wheel alignment performedELECTRICAL: CUSTOMER STATES VEHICLE
WILL NOT START - GAUGES INOP AND
MULTIPLE LIGHTS ON - ADVISE
06311-RYP-505RMALTERNATOR ASSY-
Oil and filter changed51722-SHJ-A02RUB; FR- BUMP STOP
Brake fluid flushed/changed17220-RGL-A00ELEMENT; AIR CLEANER
50805-S87-A80RUB; FR- TRANS MTG
90471-PX4-000WASHER; DRAIN (18MM)
31500-SD4-100MBAT (80D26L-MF)
50806-SHJ-A01RUB; RR- TRANS MTG
OL999-9011COOLANT (TYPE-2)
HONDA GENUINE OIL | FILTER; OIL | WASHER; DRAIN (14MM)
11/05/201686,000miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
06/24/201683,819miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Maintenance inspection completed
02/04/201680,820miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Maintenance inspection completed
11/11/201579,270miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Power steering fluid flushed/changed
Transmission fluid changed
Tires rotated
01/31/201574,247miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Four wheel alignment performed
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Wiper(s) replaced
10/13/201472,000miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
08/22/201471,155miRight Honda (Scottsdale, AZ)Maintenance inspection completedSRS LIGHTS ON: REPLACED DRIVERS
BUCKLE AND CLEARED DTCS
04816-SHJ-A21ZABuckle Set, L Front Seat Belt
07/12/201470,175miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changedREPLACED FUEL PUMP FILTER SET
PER RECALL
06177-SHJ-305KIT,FUEL STRAINER
12/09/201367,024miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
03/12/201362,827miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)60,000 mile service performedON INSPECTION FOUND BATTERY FAILED
LOAD TEST; DATE 01/29/11; MILES 48,756;
PARTS WARRANTY; BATTERY FAIL
2WE3E-CHWHE REPLACE BATTERY
31500-SD4-100MBATTERY (24F/550AMP)
Drive belts adjusted
Air filter replaced
Fuel filter replaced
Tune-up performed
Oil and filter changed
Antifreeze/coolant flushed/changed
Tires rotated
Transmission serviced
Battery replaced
Front brake pads replaced
Brake rotor(s) resurfaced
08/30/201259,000miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
07/18/201258,947miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Maintenance inspection completed
01/04/201255,922miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changedCUSTOMER STATES THE POWER STEERING
IS HARD AT LOW SPEEDS; PERFORMED
SERVICE BULLETIN 11-039
08206-9002FLUID, P.S.
Brakes serviced06561-RGL-305RMP/S PUMP RM,NO PULLE
Suspension serviced
Power steering pump repaired
05/14/201151,367miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changedPERFORMED RECALL 10-069 FOR BRAKE
MASTER CYLINDER
08798-9008FLUID, BRAKE (DOT 3)
Brake master cylinder replaced/repaired46101-WHJ-A03
06462-SJA-305MASTER CYLN.CUP
01/29/2011N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
11/26/2010N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Vehicle serviced
09/20/201049,297miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Vehicle serviced
08/21/201046,000miArizona Inspection StationPassed emissions inspection
08/13/201045,320miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Vehicle serviced
07/26/201044,181miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)45,000 mile service performed
Antifreeze/coolant checked
Oil and filter changed
Tire(s) balanced
Tires rotated
Brakes serviced
Timing belt replaced
Transmission serviced
01/27/201039,381miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
Brake fluid flushed/changed
Four tires mounted
Nitrogen fill tires
Power steering fluid flushed/changed
08/12/200934,874miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
01/02/2009N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)30,000 mile service performed
Tune-up performed
Oil and filter changed
Antifreeze/coolant flushed/changed
Tires rotated
Transmission serviced
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Fuel system cleaned/serviced
07/09/200827,422miABC Nissan (Phoenix, AZ)Two wheel alignment performed
06/26/200827,256miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
01/28/200823,630miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)30,000 mile service performedPERFORMED SERVICE BULLETIN 06-024;
REPLACED THE FRONT BRAKE PADS AND
RESURFACED THE ROTROS RIGHT ROTOR
BEFORE 28.00 MM AND AFTER 27.87MM
LEFT ROTOR BEFORE 28.00 AND AFTER
27.69MM
45022-SHJ-A50Pad Set, Front - Honda
Tune-up performed
Oil and filter changed
Antifreeze/coolant flushed/changed
Tires rotated
Transmission serviced
11/13/200721,771miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Battery replacedC/S CAR HAD TO BE JUMP STARTED;
BATTERY FAILED LOAD TEST
53E3E-4A01M .1 REPLACED BATTERY
31500-SD4-100MBattery Assembly (GR24F/630CCA) (Clarios) - Honda
08/27/200719,316miShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Radio/sound system checkedCUSTOMER STATES THE CD PLAYER IS
INOP, FOUND CD PLAYER INOP REPLACED
RADIO/CD PLAYER WITH FACTORY REMAN
39100-SHJ-A30RMTuner (AM FM 6CD) - Honda
08/15/2007N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)22,500 mile service performed
Oil and filter changed
Brakes serviced
Suspension serviced
02/19/2007N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)15,000 mile service performed
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Transmission fluid changed
Oil and filter changed
Tire(s) balanced
Tires rotated
Brakes serviced
08/08/2006N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Vehicle serviced
06/07/2006N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)7,500 mile service performed
Oil and filter changed
Tire(s) balanced
Tires rotated
Brakes serviced
Suspension serviced
12/21/2005N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Oil and filter changed
08/10/2005N/AShowcase Honda (Phoenix, AZ)Pre-delivery inspection completed
Window tint installed
 
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#23 ·
A few things to note:

You can see how inconsistent Honda's records are compared to CarFax. Some dates/entries have CarFax saying one thing and Honda saying something completely different. Honda's records are incomplete, CarFax's is as well. Take that for what its worth.

I would call Showcase Honda and inquire about the service done in 8/18 at 100K to find out if the valves were adjusted at the same time. My guess is they weren't, but if they were, that's one less thing you don't need to worry about.

Upper and lower radiator hoses changed at 97K.
Alternator changed at 90K.
PS pump changed at 55K.
Timing belt changed at 44K.
Looks like the previous owner had the transmission fluid changed regularly, which is good news.
 
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It was very generous of Jiantao to post this service info for you. Hopefully you learned a life lesson to be able to do this yourself in the future for all your vehicles.
 
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I can't believe you were able to get all of the maintenance records for me. I know it is more of a rough estimate as you said there are inconsistencies, however it is atleast record of being cared for. I will get ahold of showcase this afternoon and see what exactly they had in their records for 8/18.

If valves were not adjusted is 150k recommended as preventative even if no issues are noticed? I know some things follow the saying if it isnt broke dont fix it, others follow the saying if it breaks your screwed.
 
#25 ·
Just got off the phone with honda valves were adjusted when the valve cover gaskets replaced. They also did spark plug tube seals, boots, and the plugs at the same time. Next time I am in the area I will go into showcase and see if I can have a detailed printout of all service records from there. It feels so much better knowing rather than just assuming I am driving a well maintained vehicle.

I thought I got a great deal on it before I knew all of the recent previous service. Knowing timing isnt past due and valves shouldn't need touched is great piece of mind!
 
#27 ·
Just got off the phone with honda valves were adjusted when the valve cover gaskets replaced. They also did spark plug tube seals, boots, and the plugs at the same time. Next time I am in the area I will go into showcase and see if I can have a detailed printout of all service records from there. It feels so much better knowing rather than just assuming I am driving a well maintained vehicle.

I thought I got a great deal on it before I knew all of the recent previous service. Knowing timing isnt past due and valves shouldn't need touched is great piece of mind!
That's great news, the previous owner saved you a couple hundred bucks there! If they were adjusted at 100K, I wouldn't worry about the valve adjustment again unless you still own the van at 250K+ miles.

From what I have seen... generally, if it's listed on either Honda's records or CarFax, the service was done. If you ever get those records from Showcase Honda, I'm very curious to know what exactly they did at 90K. CarFax says brake fluid flush and alignment. Honda says alternator and coolant. Usually, they at least sort of match. Odd... I'd probably assume that all of those items were done.
 
#29 ·
It was more than generous honestly. @jiantao probably saved me more money than the previous owners did by them doing the valve adjustment. Piece of mind is worth a lot and I now have not only that but I also, as you said know how to do this for myself in the future.

I was actually just talking to my wife about the fact that a complete stranger was willing to spend so much time to help us. That is something that I really cant thank @jiantao enough for. I went back in the post and was able to show her all of the services that have been performed. She as well as I was amazed that we now have all of this information to avoid duplicate and unnecessary services.

To everybody on this forum who is more knowledgable than me (probably most of you) the tips and information given to me will never fall on deaf ears. Feed a man a fish you fed him for a night, teach a man to fish he will never go hungry. No worries this man had been taught to fish.
 
#30 ·
It was more than generous honestly. @jiantao probably saved me more money than the previous owners did by them doing the valve adjustment. Piece of mind is worth a lot and I now have not only that but I also, as you said know how to do this for myself in the future.

I was actually just talking to my wife about the fact that a complete stranger was willing to spend so much time to help us. That is something that I really cant thank @jiantao enough for. I went back in the post and was able to show her all of the services that have been performed. She as well as I was amazed that we now have all of this information to avoid duplicate and unnecessary services.

To everybody on this forum who is more knowledgable than me (probably most of you) the tips and information given to me will never fall on deaf ears. Feed a man a fish you fed him for a night, teach a man to fish he will never go hungry. No worries this man had been taught to fish.
No problem... glad to be able to help :)

It's amazing what kinds of information one can dig up on the internet about a car's history. The CarFax maintenance tool is a godsend... I just discovered it a few months ago. As a side note, when I purchased mine, the previous owner told me that the car had been in a minor accident at the rear driver quarter panel (sideswiped when parked, I think he said). I could tell that there had been a repair in the wheel well area, but had no idea how bad the damage was. I dug up his old address, put it on google maps, and the Odyssey was sitting right in front of his old house on the street view picture from 2011. You could see the dent - it was, in fact, minor. Good to actually see it with my own eyes, knowing it had not been in a major accident.

I also saw that he used a steering wheel lock in the picture. That's when it clicked in my head why the steering wheel was so worn in certain spots. A steering wheel lock didn't cross my mind before and I had just thought his wife must have death gripped the steering wheel while she drove (it was primarily her car).
 
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@jiantao google maps is incredible. I would have never thought to use it in that way but I definately will in the future. I told my wife about the steering wheel lock and assumed "death grip wear" and after the look on her face I had to check out our wheel... turns out her grip is almost as good as a wheel lock.

I finally had an evening where I was able to get to my leak. Started out rocky with napa getting wrong gasket. Luckily I noticed before starting, headed back and they had the right one in stock.

Getting the spool valve off went great. There is plenty of room after getting the air box off. Once I had it off I could tell that the main gasket was definately leaking slightly. I am not sure if the internal was leaking or not but the way the old gasket felt after removal I could tell it wasn't in great shape. The valve that isn't serviceable seamed to come apart and go back together great.

I had the camshaft seal o-ring on my order with napa as well. I wasn't sure if this would be necessary or not but it was recommended to me by @MrRangerZr1 . Once I could see the rear camshaft cover with the vvt removed from the side I was pretty sure that was my main source of leak. The video for the front cover works the same for rear, everything is identical. For some reason I wasn't thinking when I removed the cover however and I made a bit of a mess of my driveway.

Cleaning the oil off of my driveway was luckily one of the hardest parts of this job. I will keep an eye on the areas often for a while to make sure I got everything right. I will also try to update this to attest to the longevity of the napa brand gaskets that I used. I didn't find much information on the aftermarket gaskets reliability for the internal gasket of vvt solenoid.

Some of the best times I have had with my family have been on the road so miles should keep going up accordingly. Hopefully the 10k update will come soon and be all good and dry. I will also update as soon as I can get to showcase honda with their service records for my odyssey. I am curious as well at the discrepancies between honda maintenance and carfax, mostly for future vehicle purchases. Thanks again to everybody who responded you guys saved me quite a bit of money on this repair.