Agreed. I got lucky, didn't change mine for 13 years, and it lasted until I got it changed, but I'm definitely gonna stick to 7 years from now on.IMO age plays an even bigger role in the risk. The recommendation is 7 years/105K miles because rubber degrades regardless of miles. The same time frame is recommended for tires. At 12 years it's already been stretched plenty IMO.
Yeah, "they will stretch", until they break. LOL. That was my number one issue when haggling with the dealer, helped get the price down a lot and the service manager at the local shop said I'm very lucky that it hadn't snapped.Wow, good call on that one T_Duck, great example of how they wear with age and mileage.
I picked up an 06 Ody with the T-belt bird nested in the engine along with several bent valves and who knows what else, haven’t got into yet. Oh yeah, it had around 140k on it, guy was trying to stretch it out.
Funomance, I wouldn’t chance it!
I can somewhat understand this. I'd imagine the TB interval is somewhat conservative, because of the risk of the engine, and even I didn't replace my belt until 13 years, 90k miles, and it was still in fairly good condition.I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it's not a big deal to stretch it a little. You are taking a risk, though, and while the risk may not be high, it may or may not be worth it.
Logic would say that age matters just as much as mileage, but I'm not 100% convinced. I had my 13 year old belt replaced earlier this year because the tensioner was shot and the belt was loose, making a rattling noise. If I hadn't replaced the belt, and the timing jumped, I would be looking at a rebuilt engine. But, the 13 year old belt (with only 82K miles) itself was in perfect condition. I have never heard of (doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I've just never heard of it) a timing belt on a Toyota/Honda made in the past ~25 years breaking before it reached the recommended 105K mileage interval, even if it had well passed the time interval. I didn't change the belt on my Toyota Camry until 16 years old and 81K, but that is a non-interference engine, unlike the Odyssey.
So, your van has 200K now. Do you plan on selling it at 220K and only want to get another 20K out of it? Or do you plan on keeping it to 250K+? I think it's relatively low risk to push it another 20K if you weren't going to keep the car past that point anyway. If keeping it for longer, there's no point taking additional risk over the next year or two, just to have the belt replaced then.
You also don't know what was replaced last time. Like I mentioned earlier, my belt needed replacement because the tensioner was shot. If you're not sure what parts are new, you could be running a bigger risk of one of the associated components (i.e. water pump, tensioner, etc.) taking out the timing belt when they fail, even if the belt itself was fine.
I guess my point is that the van at 220K miles won't be worth much... say, $1,500. Generally speaking, any maintenance money you put in the car you never get it back upon resale. The chance that the belt breaks within the next 20K miles is going to be small, maybe 5%.I can somewhat understand this. I'd imagine the TB interval is somewhat conservative, because of the risk of the engine, and even I didn't replace my belt until 13 years, 90k miles, and it was still in fairly good condition.
I don't really agree with your second to last point about keeping it or selling it. If you're selling it, sure, it could go 20k, but if it doesn't, you'll have to do the belt before you can sell it, and a recently changed timing belt could potentially even increase the value a bit.
You probably should. My 06 EX had it done at about 13 years at 89k miles, and even then, it was a bit worn.07 EX with 95,000 miles, I’m at 13 years. I realize I stretched the time quite a bit. Was thinking about selling but it’s not worth selling because I probably won’t get too much for it. Relatively problem free van. I should probably get it replaced soon.