Honda Odyssey 2009 EXL
This is the second time Ive had to deal with this headache. Below some possible remedies for a parasitic leak. It was specific to my Odyssey but the general steps can apply to any vehicle I think if you have a little mechanical skill or inclination to attempt.
TLDR. I had a parasitic drain on my battery while the vehicle was off that measured a current draw of ~120 mA (instead of under 50mA). I was able to reduce the drain to 37 mA by checking and lubricating both sliding door latches as well as the power rear lift gate latch. I also checked and engaged all three motor powered latches.
Recently changed the alternator. On my 3rd battery in 4 years.
Symptoms. Battery dies after sitting overnight
Diagonstics. Pop the hood and shut all doors and light. No keys in the ignition. Engage the hood latch with the hood open to "trick" any hood sensor/switch. Let the electronic systems "shut down" or sleep mode for 10 mins. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Using a digital volt meter set to 10/20 Amp and set to measure current in series (check voltmeter instructions), I was getting readings of 120mA after car was at rest for 10 mins. From what I understand, measurement in this state are recommended to be under 50mA. This is how I diagnosed the parasitic drain. Now I needed to isolate the source of the drain
I then opened the PRIMARY fuse box under the hood to pull fuses and relays. In the past I had to replace a $5 dollar A/C compressor clutch relay (R4) to address a parasitic drain. I thought it might be the same relay. After pulling fuses in the primary fuse box one by one, it turns out that pulling fuse 15, labelled backup/ACC, 40A, gives a reading of 0 mA on the voltmeter. Put it back in and the current draw goes to 120mA once again. Through some googling and reading other posts I learn that fuse 15 in the primary fuse panel feeds fuse 5,6,7,8, and 9 in the driver side fuse box located under the dashboard. So while taking readings, I pull each of these fuses in sequence one by one. When I remove fuse 7, the voltmeter reading drops to 0mA. Put fuse 7 back in and voltmeter reads 120mA once again. At this point I have further isolated the source of the parasitic drain to the circuits fed by fuse 7. To test this, I leave fuse 7 out overnight and check the battery the next day. I am able to start the car no problems, further suggesting that one of the circuits in line with fuse 7 is the source of the drain. I put fuse 7 back in to its place. Poking around the internet and talking to others, I am able to determine the circuits involved. Doing some other poking around, I am also able to discern that door latching mechanisms and the electronics associated with them are common sources of parasitic drains. I am loathe to disassemble my doors or send them in for costly repairs so I first attempt some "low costs" alternatives.
Using some lubricant, I spray the front and rear latches on the driver and passengers side power sliding doors. With a long flat head screw driver, I engage and disengage the rear latches a few times with the door open (***in manual mode, not power mode) and lubricate the latch a little each time. You may need to open and close the doors a few times to engage and disengage the latches. I also take the opportunity to clean the 3 door sensors on the door frame towards the rear bottom of the frame. I also checked the operation of the car door light switches (not broken or stuck, functional). After lubrication, I switch the sliding doors to power mode and open and close the doors and checked that the motor and power latches engage. I do this a few times.
I do another voltmeter parasitic drain check and to my sweet surprise, the parasitic drain is now down to 73mA. After doing a little happy dance, I am hunbled down to reality knowing that "standard" operation in car off mode is less than 50mA current draw.
Checking the previously acquired circuit information, another light goes off in my head. The fuse 7 circuits also included front and rear MICU's and the power liftgate. I read up on the MICUs and how to locate them for further reference. I figure I might need to replace one of them. But before I went down that route, I lubricated the power lift gate a few times, I opened and closed it manually a few times, lubricating each time. After lubrication, I used the power lift mechanism to open and close a few times checking to see that the latch motor engaged when it closed. I did another parasitic measurement check and low and behold it read 37mA. I am hoping this fixes my parasitic drain this time. I am glad that I didnt have to mess with the MICU but that was my next step if the latch lubrication and power lift gate motor check didnt work.
I would note that my voltmeter readings when I was taking measurements were not 400mA as reported by others suggesting that the power sliding door motors and electronics may not have been the culprit. I suspect in my case, the door latches were somehow not activating switches and lubrication somehow changed that FWIW.
Hope this helps someone.
This is the second time Ive had to deal with this headache. Below some possible remedies for a parasitic leak. It was specific to my Odyssey but the general steps can apply to any vehicle I think if you have a little mechanical skill or inclination to attempt.
TLDR. I had a parasitic drain on my battery while the vehicle was off that measured a current draw of ~120 mA (instead of under 50mA). I was able to reduce the drain to 37 mA by checking and lubricating both sliding door latches as well as the power rear lift gate latch. I also checked and engaged all three motor powered latches.
Recently changed the alternator. On my 3rd battery in 4 years.
Symptoms. Battery dies after sitting overnight
Diagonstics. Pop the hood and shut all doors and light. No keys in the ignition. Engage the hood latch with the hood open to "trick" any hood sensor/switch. Let the electronic systems "shut down" or sleep mode for 10 mins. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Using a digital volt meter set to 10/20 Amp and set to measure current in series (check voltmeter instructions), I was getting readings of 120mA after car was at rest for 10 mins. From what I understand, measurement in this state are recommended to be under 50mA. This is how I diagnosed the parasitic drain. Now I needed to isolate the source of the drain
I then opened the PRIMARY fuse box under the hood to pull fuses and relays. In the past I had to replace a $5 dollar A/C compressor clutch relay (R4) to address a parasitic drain. I thought it might be the same relay. After pulling fuses in the primary fuse box one by one, it turns out that pulling fuse 15, labelled backup/ACC, 40A, gives a reading of 0 mA on the voltmeter. Put it back in and the current draw goes to 120mA once again. Through some googling and reading other posts I learn that fuse 15 in the primary fuse panel feeds fuse 5,6,7,8, and 9 in the driver side fuse box located under the dashboard. So while taking readings, I pull each of these fuses in sequence one by one. When I remove fuse 7, the voltmeter reading drops to 0mA. Put fuse 7 back in and voltmeter reads 120mA once again. At this point I have further isolated the source of the parasitic drain to the circuits fed by fuse 7. To test this, I leave fuse 7 out overnight and check the battery the next day. I am able to start the car no problems, further suggesting that one of the circuits in line with fuse 7 is the source of the drain. I put fuse 7 back in to its place. Poking around the internet and talking to others, I am able to determine the circuits involved. Doing some other poking around, I am also able to discern that door latching mechanisms and the electronics associated with them are common sources of parasitic drains. I am loathe to disassemble my doors or send them in for costly repairs so I first attempt some "low costs" alternatives.
Using some lubricant, I spray the front and rear latches on the driver and passengers side power sliding doors. With a long flat head screw driver, I engage and disengage the rear latches a few times with the door open (***in manual mode, not power mode) and lubricate the latch a little each time. You may need to open and close the doors a few times to engage and disengage the latches. I also take the opportunity to clean the 3 door sensors on the door frame towards the rear bottom of the frame. I also checked the operation of the car door light switches (not broken or stuck, functional). After lubrication, I switch the sliding doors to power mode and open and close the doors and checked that the motor and power latches engage. I do this a few times.
I do another voltmeter parasitic drain check and to my sweet surprise, the parasitic drain is now down to 73mA. After doing a little happy dance, I am hunbled down to reality knowing that "standard" operation in car off mode is less than 50mA current draw.
Checking the previously acquired circuit information, another light goes off in my head. The fuse 7 circuits also included front and rear MICU's and the power liftgate. I read up on the MICUs and how to locate them for further reference. I figure I might need to replace one of them. But before I went down that route, I lubricated the power lift gate a few times, I opened and closed it manually a few times, lubricating each time. After lubrication, I used the power lift mechanism to open and close a few times checking to see that the latch motor engaged when it closed. I did another parasitic measurement check and low and behold it read 37mA. I am hoping this fixes my parasitic drain this time. I am glad that I didnt have to mess with the MICU but that was my next step if the latch lubrication and power lift gate motor check didnt work.
I would note that my voltmeter readings when I was taking measurements were not 400mA as reported by others suggesting that the power sliding door motors and electronics may not have been the culprit. I suspect in my case, the door latches were somehow not activating switches and lubrication somehow changed that FWIW.
Hope this helps someone.