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If you don't have TPMS, you can't turn off VSA. This could be a problem if you get stuck in the snow and you cannot spin the tires.

FWIW, I put the TPMS on the winter rims and go without them for the other 3 seasons.
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
If you don't have TPMS, you can't turn off VSA. This could be a problem if you get stuck in the snow and you cannot spin the tires.

FWIW, I put the TPMS on the winter rims and go without them for the other 3 seasons.
I understand that and will see how we get by his winter, and if need be, will get the cloned sensors for the steel wheels next year.
 
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Just put the tires on the Odyssey today and as expected after about 30 minutes of driving, the TPMS light came on but no chime or other alert at the moment. The VSA could not be turned off (as expected) as well. I would have mounted them much sooner but the weather has been so warm in NY that I decided to wait for our first storm to put them on.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Just switched back to the OEM tires yesterday and the TPMS light went out after a few miles of driving. What I noticed and don't like is even with doing 5,000 mile rotations myself, the OEM Michelins will be shot probably within another 5,000 miles. They only have around 14,000 miles on them and 2 are approaching the wear bars already. These are not cheap tires to replace either. When the time comes, I will be going with a different brand.
 
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Just an update on the Arctics, this is my 2nd winter with them on and had a nice 4-5 inches of show yesterday and they were fantastic, especially driving up this long hill right near my home that many 2wd vehicles can't make it up during a storm. It didn't even slip once going up, although I was able to make my anti-locks kick in going down that same hill just a bit. I am always impressed with the real difference a good set of winter tires makes in snow driving.
 
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Nope, and I just put them back on today as a matter of fact. Just the TPMS light stays on but no chime or other warnings.
 
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Updating this thread a bit....last winter was the last one with the Arctics, which were worn pretty bad, so I ordered a set of Cooper Discoverer True Norths a year ago today and they are great. I used them all last winter and just put them on again today for the season. They also received top ratings in Consumer Reports for whatever that's worth. I will see how they wear going forward...Ordered them in 225/65/17..
 

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Discussion starter · #33 ·
Have you found not having the ability to disable VSA because TPMS sensors are not installed negatively impact your winter traction?
Thanks!
Sorry, just saw this now. I haven't had any issues regarding the VSA and traction, but fortunately it hasn't been a rough winter here in NY at all. I just took off the winter tires yesterday as a matter of fact, which is a little earlier than I usually would. The Cooper Discoverer True Norths are wearing very well.
 
Discussion starter · #34 · (Edited)
Just updating an old thread of mine. I found a simple workaround to disable the VSA when running my winter tire set without TPMS sensors. I used my BlueDriver OBD tool to reset the TPMS fault and the VSA is now operational for a good long while before the code reappears, which will be more than enough if anyone gets stuck a bit and needs the extra wheelspin offered by disabling the VSA. I have driven from my house into town and back, and it it still working fine as I type this. The only thing is you need to carry the module with you during the winter months, or even keep it plugged in all winter long for easy access.

Just updating now-I got over 12 miles on it before the TPMS light came back on and the VSA was able to be de-activated for the whole trip.
 
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Winter set back on with just under 105,000 miles now. Brakes have over 70,000 miles on them and still no warping or pulsing like there was on the OEM rotors. Centric rotors and Akebono pads are the winning combination.
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