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Take a look at the extensive list of TSB's on for the gen 5

then compare to the gen 4 and make your own conclusions.

all vehicles have that 1234yf in them now, and its crap for the scorching summers in the lower states.
its also 4-5x more expensive... saving the planet with the working class wallets again...
have heard of some evacuating the system of the 1234yf and recharging with R134a with success, needs a coupler adapter.

The exterior of the gen 5 is a meld of the gen 3-4 IMO, which is kind of growing on me, but will avoid owning one myself.
I mostly agree.

Personally I'd go with R152a.
Tests show it's more efficient than 134a and has a lower greenhouse effect. You would still need to figure out how much, but you would need to do that for 134a as well.
 

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Even as a Honda tech I'm thinking of muzzling my 12.
I had a misfire that went away and the code being there disabled the VCM even after the misfire stopped.
During that time I didn't notice a significant drop in economy and I drive while doing a minor hypermiling.
 
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