thought i had seen a thread on this some time back but can't seem to locate it. currently have an '01 ex and was holding out for an '11 touring but after reading up on it, i am thinking about pursuing a used 3rd gen touring. not looking to create a 3rd gen / 4th gen debate for in my opinion even though honda has tweaked their offering, both gens are worthy vehicles. my personal situation is a family of 4 (girls 9 & 11), wife's daily driver, 2 to 3 2,000 mile road trips a year. thoughts regarding features offered, reliability, etc. between the years much appreciated but no pax!