99 and some 2000 Ody Transmission Defect

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sixsmiths

Discussion Starter · Dec 29, 2001

IS EVERYONE AWARE THAT ALL 1999 AND SOME 2000 MODEL ODYSSEY VANS HAVE A TRANSMISSION DEFECT? HONDA SERVICE BULLETIN #00-065. THEY ARE NOT EFFECTING A RECALL, THEY ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO FIND IT, AND THEN THEY WILL REPLACE IT WITH A REPAIRED "USED" TRANSMISSION. ASK YOUR DEALER TO SEE THE SERVICE BULLETIN AND READ WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT RELACEMENT. IN MY OPINION THERE IS NO FACT THAT THE REMANUFACTURED TRANSMISSIONS ARE ANY DIFFERENT OR FREE OF THIS DEFECT. THAT IS WHY HONDA HAS COMPLETELY REDESIGNED THE TRANSMISSION FOR THE 2002 MODEL. I HAVE INFORMATION ON A TEXAS LAWYER WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO ANY ODY OWNERS WITH TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS.

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DTKWOK

· #2 · Dec 29, 2001

Originally posted by sixsmiths:
IS EVERYONE AWARE THAT ALL 1999 AND SOME 2000 MODEL ODYSSEY VANS HAVE A TRANSMISSION DEFECT? HONDA SERVICE BULLETIN #00-065. THEY ARE NOT EFFECTING A RECALL, THEY ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO FIND IT, AND THEN THEY WILL REPLACE IT WITH A REPAIRED "USED" TRANSMISSION. ASK YOUR DEALER TO SEE THE SERVICE BULLETIN AND READ WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT RELACEMENT. IN MY OPINION THERE IS NO FACT THAT THE REMANUFACTURED TRANSMISSIONS ARE ANY DIFFERENT OR FREE OF THIS DEFECT. THAT IS WHY HONDA HAS COMPLETELY REDESIGNED THE TRANSMISSION FOR THE 2002 MODEL. I HAVE INFORMATION ON A TEXAS LAWYER WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO ANY ODY OWNERS WITH TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS.

I am sure that most of the "veterans" on this board are quite aware of the S/B's on those models. But a S/B does not necessarily mean that it could apply to your van (some do, though). I currently have a '01 with about 13.6K miles on it, I had the transmission solenoid replaced early on, more as a precaution than a failure. So far so good. As for Honda switching to the 5 speed, maybe they wanted a competitive advantage? (The '02 MPV is coming out with a 5 speed tranny, the Kia Sedona also has one.) Honda fortunately does not take the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.

Now, may I ask what year Ody you have? Are you a prospective buyer? Rest assured that there are many satisfied Ody owners out here who would be happy to help with information. However, this forum has been seeing many new posters lately, many of them with complaints for their first postings. Some are valid while others are just plain slander. Good day.

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DTKWOK

· #6 · Dec 30, 2001

Originally posted by phil47:
DTKWOK:

Just out of curiosity, what was the symptom that caused Honda replace the solenoid, and was it part of a bulletin? I've had absolutely no problems with my 2001 EX tranny so far, but I'd like to know what to look for if there ever is trouble. Thanks.

Well, I have noticed that when I came to a complete stop, shift the van from D4 to N to R, there was a loud clunk (not all the time). I took it to the dealer and he said that it was not normal (took all of 2 minutes to get the paperwork started), so they basically replaced the solenoid per S/B 90-014. Now at 13K+ miles there is more of a thud when shifting from D4 to R or from N to R, at about every other shift. I again took it back to the dealer and had them listen to it. The same guy said that it was normal and that the tranny oil replacement will make it go away. Since I've already bought the 7yr/100,000 mile warranty (for the electric sliders) I have some time to find out if they're yanking my chain or not. BTW, hold would others describe the shifting mentioned above? Do you hear or feel anything when you shift?

But as sixsmiths pointed out, the S/B 00-065 pertians to another type of failure. If you're getting bad service from the local dealer, go somewhere else. Good luck on your journey.

[This message has been edited by DTKWOK (edited 12-29-2001).]

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DTKWOK

· #10 · Dec 31, 2001

Originally posted by SoFlaOdyssey:
My 2001 LX has made the "CLUNK!" a few times in this first year that I've owned it. Maybe 4 times?

It rarely happens but can be disconcerting when heard.

I think if you MAKE SURE to wait a few seconds after stopping, before shifting to R (or through R to P), it won't make the noise. Also, I make sure I don't thrust the shifter from D4 to P. I move it one by one (kinda quickly, I don't stop at each point) through N-R-P.

I have found that doing the above gear shifting in the manner described reduces the chance of hearing the thud. The only other thing that would produce this type of clunk would be to allow the weight of the vehicle to "ride" against the tranny while in park (i.e. parking the van on a hill, shifting into Park BEFORE engaging the parking brake). This of course is extremely BAD for the tranny.

Phil47, thanks for your input. For me, I could only generate the thud in the following sequence: drive in D4, stop, shift to N to R, "thud", backup, stop, shift from R to N to D4, move forward again, stop, shift from D4 to N to R, "thud". If I may ask, did you get your tranny oil replaced yet?

Once I get the thud and have not moved the van, I can change gears to R from N or D4 and vice versa with no discernable noise. Awhile back another poster on another forum described the Honda tranny as a "semi-auto" design, meaning no synchros between R and N, thus the chance of noticeable shifting action under certain conditions. Just curious how noticeable the shifting is suppose to be, that's all.

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DTKWOK

· #13 · Dec 31, 2001

Sixsmiths,

Thanks for the VIN's, were those the only ones pertaining to S/B 00-065? I did a net search of tranny defects and came upon the site that you were probably refering to. (The one about contacting a Tony Buzbee from Texas?) Anyhow, hope things work out for all '99 and '00 owners. (Hope I don't have join in this suit, considering I have an early '01 model..) Please keep us aprised of the outcome. Thanks.

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