I just traded in my Ody for a Ford Econoline van. My transmission was starting to slip. had the hardshift into third gear. I am reallyticked that Honda let such a piece of crap stay out on the road. It only had 110,000 miles on it. I went back to good old American brand of cars. I have had much more success with Ford than any other brand of car. BTW the transmission had all of the recommended trans services and a Magnifine fikter installed it did not help.