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Hi folks :

I have a '00 EX and sometimes when I turn the ignition key, I just get a slight hiss ... the car doesn't start. If I immediately turn it off and restart it, everything seems to be okay. Anybody seen this ?
 

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hiss at start up

:confused: I had experience a few times the same problem. It is being about three or four times that when starting the engine the engine wont start up and all I heard is a hissing or winding noise. Then I will turn off the switch and try again and no problem like nothing ever happent. Now that I heard somebody else had the same problem I will take it to the dealer before my manufacture warranty expires in december of this year. My ody is a 2000 blue velvet color.
 

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Sounds like the recalled ignition switch. Might wanna smell the area of the switch to see if there's a burnt aroma.
 

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Re: starter malfunction

demond wilson said:
The same thing happened to me! The ody started and I didn't notice because it is so smooth. I tried to start it while it was running and it made a hissing noise, like our fellow member described. It occured to me that the hissing noise was my starter pinion gear trying to remove the teeth on my flywheel!
Not to be nit-picky desmond, but our odys don't have a flywheel.. those are only for manual transmissions--if it was a typo, I apologize.. i just don't want any of the Odyclub members to talk to their mechanic about their imaginary 'flywheel' ;). We have a torque converter.

So what IS that grinding sound we hear when we try to re-start a running engine? The TC? I really don't understand the mechanics of starting an engine and what exactly is involved--can anyone fill me in on this one? All i can figure from guessing is-- turn to II position=battery runs most accessories, turn key to III position and it sends a surge to the ignition, sending a signal to the fuel pumps and spark plugs. :confused:

You guys with the starting problem, go to the honda owner's link and type in your VIN after registering. It should tell you if your vehicle is part of the ignition recall.. if it is, you should be getting a letter from honda within the next 3 months. Or if its a really bad problem, just call up your local dealer and see if they have any replacement ignitions in yet.
http://www.ahm-ownerlink.com

"May 2002
Recall Campaign: Ignition Switch
Dear Honda Owner:

Your car is affected by the ignition switch recall that was recently announced.

Electrical contacts within the ignition switch can wear prematurely, which can eventually cause the engine to stall without warning. When a stall does occur, the engine can normally be restarted immediately. An affected vehicle typically experiences difficulty in starting for a period of time before experiencing any engine stall. Most customers will not experience any problems prior to the repair--less than 3/10ths of one percent of affected vehicles have experienced switch failure. There have been no reports of accidents or injuries related to this issue.

It will take several months to manufacture replacement parts for the 1.3 million vehicles involved. As soon as parts are available for your car, you will receive a letter explaining how to have your car repaired. The customer mailing will take place between June and September 2002.

If you are currently having difficulty starting the engine in your car (e.g., hard-to-start, stalls immediately after starting, etc.), your ignition switch may be worn out. You should contact your dealer immediately.

If you have any questions about this recall, you may contact your Honda dealer.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

Sincerely,

AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
Honda Automobile Division"

"The recall involves about 1.3 million of certain 1997 to 2000 models of the Honda Accord, Civic, Prelude, CR-V and Odyssey. Also included in the recall are some 1999 Acura TL sedans and certain 1997 to 1999 CL coupes"
 

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Akoni said:
Not to be nit-picky desmond, but our odys don't have a flywheel.. those are only for manual transmissions--if it was a typo, I apologize.. i just don't want any of the Odyclub members to talk to their mechanic about their imaginary 'flywheel' ;). We have a torque converter.
The engine most certainly does have a flywheel. That has nothing to do with the transmission.
 

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Well if that is the case, then I apologize for attempting to correct you desmond and making a big fool out of myself. :stupid:

From reading a lot of things in the past, the manual transmission had a flywheel and the automatic transmission had a torque converter. <shrug> But I'm no mechanic so I won't argue. Thanks for correcting me.
 

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An automatic transmissioned vehicle still has a flywheel, but it is not designed to have a clutch plate press against it. It is probably a good bit lighter than a manual's flywheel since it has the torque converter's moment of inertia to rely on.

It may be nothing more than a thin aluminum ring with teeth the starter can turn.


Actually, from the service manual, the ring gear the starter motor engages is actually mounted(or part of) to the outide of the torque converter, and there is a rather flimsy looking 'drive plate' connected to the crankshaft that the torque converter is pushed up against. No doubt there is some sort of pinned interlock between them, since it would be a little dicey moving 240 horsepower through something which you can't press hard against(like the flimsy drive plate.
 
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