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Hey guys,

my 2004 tranny failed at 147k miles.

All the gears seem to be toasted, even reverse.

I found a site called Boss Transmission with a reasonable remanufactured price for the tranny.

Anyone ever use them or have experience with their transmissions.

thanks
 

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Most on this site recommend Jasper and Gator.
Jasper is a brand I am familiar with but the price is quite high, almost 3k for the transmission without installation.

Im not sure about Gator, they do rebuilds as far as I can tell and that I like, I havent gotten a price from them.

Boss transmission is a good price which is why I was asking about them.
 

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A bit of an update.

I found a lccal guy to rebuild the tranny. He is very experienced with odyssey's and agreed to do the entire thing including parts and labor for 1800-2000.

He will also put my tranny cooler on as well, he thinks its a great idea. He will warranty it for 18k, and 18 months.

Seems like the best deal around because he is local and if it breaks I can take it back to him and he can make it right.
 

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make sure you try to find any reviews about that shop on the internet. i almost went to mr transmission only to read VERY negative reviews
 

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sorry, long

It's not fair to paint *every* tranny shop with the same brush, but having owned a business for 10 years located next to three different local & national tranny shops, it's a lousy business.

I wholeheartedly agree with ssmeee, check out angies list, or the BBB, at minimum. A business DOES NOT have to be a member of the BBB to have a file. Some shops will try to tell you that so you don't refer to their ranking.

As brief as possible...by and large...tranny shop MO's are to 'get a bite' on the job by you authorizing them to remove & inspect your tranny, then a barrage of successive phone calls drawing you in further & further with additional broken/non serviceable parts, then when you say STOP...

1) You nut up & pay the now $4,000 bill because "It's a great vehicle sir, but I've NEVER seen one this bad, it's just a fluke."

2) You pay them the man hours they've already logged, ($300-$600 even though ALL they've done is remove & disassemble, not reinstall as the book time states) throw all the (now completely disassembled) tranny in the back and tow your van home or somewhere else.

3) Decide the value of the vehicle isn't worth repairing & they offer you their time logged if you just sign over the title to them, so they can repair it & make a tidy profit. (Just look how many cars are perpetually for sale outside almost any tranny shop.)

Going with a national company & consider using their recommended installation facility gives you more leverage than an independent or chain shop.

Go to KBB.com & plug in your van's condition, see what trade in would be for one that is in good working order (keep in mind, 1% of all used vehicles qualify as Excellent condition, most are 'fair' some 'good'.)
 

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Check to see if they addressed some of the shortcoming of the tranny, seems gator has been able to modify or upgrade the tranny. Level 10 is good too but expensive and they too have modified/upgraded the honda auto.
 

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It's not fair to paint *every* tranny shop with the same brush, but having owned a business for 10 years located next to three different local & national tranny shops, it's a lousy business.

I wholeheartedly agree with ssmeee, check out angies list, or the BBB, at minimum. A business DOES NOT have to be a member of the BBB to have a file. Some shops will try to tell you that so you don't refer to their ranking.

As brief as possible...by and large...tranny shop MO's are to 'get a bite' on the job by you authorizing them to remove & inspect your tranny, then a barrage of successive phone calls drawing you in further & further with additional broken/non serviceable parts, then when you say STOP...

1) You nut up & pay the now $4,000 bill because "It's a great vehicle sir, but I've NEVER seen one this bad, it's just a fluke."

2) You pay them the man hours they've already logged, ($300-$600 even though ALL they've done is remove & disassemble, not reinstall as the book time states) throw all the (now completely disassembled) tranny in the back and tow your van home or somewhere else.

3) Decide the value of the vehicle isn't worth repairing & they offer you their time logged if you just sign over the title to them, so they can repair it & make a tidy profit. (Just look how many cars are perpetually for sale outside almost any tranny shop.)

Going with a national company & consider using their recommended installation facility gives you more leverage than an independent or chain shop.

Go to KBB.com & plug in your van's condition, see what trade in would be for one that is in good working order (keep in mind, 1% of all used vehicles qualify as Excellent condition, most are 'fair' some 'good'.)
ok, thanks for the advice.

I talked to my local guy A+ BBB rating, and he says between 1800-2000, with the range being if he needs to replaced a drum or something, which he doubts he will have too.

He seems honest to me, I do a good bit of business with that company, he has serviced a good bit of Odyssey trans, and since he is local if there is a problem the vehicle will go back to him. I am choosing this over a reman unit for the simple fact that labor is also guaranteed, so if it does need to come out I dont have to pay 600-800 bucks to do it.

I would not pay 4k for a tranny job, I can get a reman tranny for 1500, so someone telling me 4k would not get the go ahead from me in fact, I would tell them to await my reman unit and they can install that.

The kit to do a tranny I imagine is 500-600 for the parts, there is probably a good bit of labor time, and the shop needs to make a profit. Im fine with that, I am a business man myself, everyone needs to make a profit.

I am comfortable with what he has told me, and he recommends alot of stuff that people on the board talk about such as tranny cooler ect.
 

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update

Odyssey went in to local guy a few days back.

He called me today telling me it needs a case, but since he didnt put that in his estimate he is splitting the cost with me. He doestnt sound like he is trying to fleece me, it seems like he really wants to do this right.

He said something about it binding causing a transmission whine, something I think I always heard when I drove this car.

He is also going to install my cooler and magnafine filter as well.

My cost at this point is 2250, parts and labor are warrantied for 2 years.

even with the case replaced its less than other estimates so we will see Thursday when its ready to be picked up.

cautiously optimistic
 

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As brief as possible...by and large...tranny shop MO's are to 'get a bite' on the job by you authorizing them to remove & inspect your tranny, then a barrage of successive phone calls drawing you in further & further with additional broken/non serviceable parts, then when you say STOP...
LOL. someone recently told me that's how it's laid out in the franchise agreement of a major trans chain up here. Give out lowball quote, get agreement and get car in shop, disassemble trans, call customer and say parts, etc, price goes up to $4k.
 

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Right on!

***snip*** As brief as possible...by and large...tranny shop MO's are to 'get a bite' on the job by you authorizing them to remove & inspect your tranny, then a barrage of successive phone calls drawing you in further & further with additional broken/non serviceable parts, then when you say STOP...
You definitely know what you're talking about! This is exactly what Cottman did to me many years ago with my AMC. IIRC, a class action lawsuit was filed against them for this practice.

I hope the OP's independant rebuild works out okay.
 

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update.

Got the car back today, the price was exactly what I was qouted, its shifting great.

He had to replace the case but it is working great.

He installed my tranny cooler and filter too..

There are honest people, that do a good job.
 

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update.

Got the car back today, the price was exactly what I was qouted, its shifting great.

He had to replace the case but it is working great.

He installed my tranny cooler and filter too..

There are honest people, that do a good job.
Looks like you found a good shop that is honest too. Hold on to them and refer them as much business as you can. It's what I do with my mechanic.:)
 

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ATF? The original Z1 atf can't thake the heat.
I would use full synthetic only for these transmissions.....
No, the Honda ATF fluid is fine. Don't waste your money on synthetic.

Don't flush, but do a drain and fill fairly often.
 

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ATF? The original Z1 atf can't thake the heat.
I would use full synthetic only for these transmissions.....
i can put whatever i want in it now, initially only honda atf was necessary because anything else voided the warranty.

its my baby now so to speak, so synthetic is fine, what do you suggest?

I have a tranny cooler in addition to the standard cooler and inline filter so I dont know how important heat is anymore.

i did have to put all new brakes on the thing yesterday since it had been sitting for a while i think the corrosion caused some problems.

got two new rotors and pads for the front, for pretty cheap, not a bad job except for the stupid screws in the rotor. most times i have to drill those out, and then walk the rotor out since it wont come loose.
 

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LOL. someone recently told me that's how it's laid out in the franchise agreement of a major trans chain up here. Give out lowball quote, get agreement and get car in shop, disassemble trans, call customer and say parts, etc, price goes up to $4k.
Wow, those dirty dogs, actually laid it out in a business plan?!?

This is exactly what Cottman did to me many years ago with my AMC. IIRC, a class action lawsuit was filed against them for this practice.

I hope the OP's independant rebuild works out okay.
It truly is criminal in many cases. I, too hope that the OP's continues to give good service. Fortunately it sounds pretty good so far.
 
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