New guy here. I'm looking at buying a 2015 EX-L with 47k miles. A couple of concerns though. The tires are close to being worn out and they must be the second set (i don't think Coopers are oem). Does 2 sets of tires in 47k miles sound reasonable? My other concern is the condition of the body and interior doesn't seem to match a car with that many miles. A specific example is the shift knob looks pretty worn. Carfax says no issues and the service history is pretty regular at approximately 10k per service. What do you think?
To figure out the tire manufacturing date. There are four digits inside an oval, usually after the string of information after the DOT. It will be on each tire and one side of each tire. My guess is they are original.
Sounds like you should pass, that one’s been “rode” hard. Mine has 228,000 miles on it and the panels look new and always waxed. The shift knob looks new with regular leather treatment along with the wheel and seats.
Something doesn't sound right about this van. Cooper tires are definitely not factory originals but under averaging well under 25,000 miles per set of tires is excessive, even for a vehicle known to go through tires like @amm888 noted.
And a four year old Odyssey that has had even the most basic care should not be showing significant wear, inside or out. Oil changes every 10,000 miles is probably not following the Maintenance Minder - I rarely eke out much more than about 7,000 miles before the system calls for a change. I'd be shocked if I got as much 10,000 miles from the Maintenance Minder. What does the Carfax say about transmission fluid service? If the previous owner was ignoring the MM and stretching oil changes, I wonder whether they did the same for the ATF? That would not be good.
My 2015 has a little over 47,000 miles on it and it could pretty much go back into the showroom tomorrow. If this thing's been rode hard and put away wet, you may do well to keep looking. There are other vans.
I don't trust those maintenance minders. I go about 5,500-6,000 miles between oil changes and rotate every oil change. We have a 2017 EXL and our OEM tires lasted only 2 years, but we accumulated 44,000 miles on them. Getting a set of Michelin Defender's put on next week. We drive a lot and take our Ody on cross country vacations that are about 6,000 miles round trip. It's a phenomenal van and comfy for long haul.
Regarding the OP, I would pass. There are tons of Ody's out there and it sounds like the one you are looking at has excessive wear and tear.
I don't trust those maintenance minders. I go about 5,500-6,000 miles between oil changes and rotate every oil change. We have a 2017 EXL and our OEM tires lasted only 2 years, but we accumulated 44,000 miles on them. Getting a set of Michelin Defender's put on next week. We drive a lot and take our Ody on cross country vacations that are about 6,000 miles round trip. It's a phenomenal van and comfy for long haul.
Regarding the OP, I would pass. There are tons of Ody's out there and it sounds like the one you are looking at has excessive wear and tear.
I agree with you about the Maintenance Minder; I don't fully trust it either. In reality, I change the oil every 10,000 km (about 6,200 miles). The 7,000 miles I mentioned in my previous post is a prorated estimate - the MM usually shows 15% oil life left when I change it. I have never reached a multiple of 10,000 km with anywhere remotely near 40% oil life remaining, which is what a 16,000 km (10,000 mile OCI) from the Maintenance Minder would have to have. The previous owner of that van the OP is looking at was ignoring Honda's maintenance schedule for the easy stuff - it's not hard to believe he wasn't taking care of the less obvious stuff either.
I swap winter and all-season tires roughly 5-6 months apart, so tire rotations do happen - just at very long intervals. I mark which tire was where when I take them off and then do the rotation when they swap back on at the end of the season. So our OEM Michelin all-seasons have only been on the van for approximately half its total mileage but even so they are nowhere near being worn out. I'm thinking I have another 2-3 years for sure before I'm shopping for new shoes on the Ody, which projects to a lifespan of around 35,000 miles for each set of tires.
God, if they both need replacing in the same year, that's gonna be expensive!
Ignoring the Maintenance Minder is OK as long as you don't ignore the subcodes. One can look at the maintenance schedule from older Odys to figure out what needs doing when. Engine air filter, cabin filter, trans fluid change, brake fluid replacement, and eventually a full timing belt service with spark plugs. If you never let the MM get to 15%, you will never see those subcodes.
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