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JERRY in general discussion noted that he saw a lot of Ody's with their center brake lights out. Checked mine and sure enough there was a problem. Bulb and socket partially melted and distorted so it will not come out of lens. How prevalent is this?
 

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Would be very interested in any ideas to prevent this from happening. I've also noticed a few Odysseys on the road with the center brake lights not working.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by djdro34:
Well, just checked out my ODY and sure enough, my bulb is out. I will get to trying to replace tonite.</font>
Be careful removing the red plastic cover over the screw. I broke a tab on mine while doing it. Let us know whether your bulb is difficult to get out of the lens or socket.
 

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Saw another Ody with its brake light out tonight. Hope to talk to dealer next week.
 

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hey nds, wish i had seen your post about removing the cover. Mine is busted now and being held on by electrical tape. Still didn't replace the bulb.
 

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There are about five Odysseys in my neighboorhood now, and three of them have no third like. I first noticed it on my friends, and now realize it is an epidemic. Yikes.

The best solution I can think of is to convert the thing to LED. As far as I'm concerned EVERYTHING should be LED lit these days. But especially that third brake light. LEDs light faster, can be as bright or brighter, last just about forever, and draw much less current in use. OH, and they don't get hot, so can't melt anything.

Anybody find an LED array that will fit in there? I'd look myself, but alas, I need to wait until I actually own an Odyssey before I go fixing it.


- Darell

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I'll sure look forward to hearing about what you can come up with to fix this problem. I wish I had the skills to do this, but I just have to sit in awe of all of you guys and then hope the solutions you come up with might be easy enough for my husband or me to do
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by darelldd:
The best solution I can think of is to convert the thing to LED. As far as I'm concerned EVERYTHING should be LED lit these days. But especially that third brake light. LEDs light faster, can be as bright or brighter, last just about forever, and draw much less current in use. OH, and they don't get hot, so can't melt anything.

Anybody find an LED array that will fit in there? I'd look myself, but alas, I need to wait until I actually own an Odyssey before I go fixing it.


- Darell

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I opened up my 3rd brake light compartment to check out this possibility. I don't think that the lamp housing is in the correct orientation for putting in an LED bulb. Most LED's are very directional, and the LED bulb might not be pointed in the correct postion to provide a lot of light when viewed from behind.

Check out:
http://nextcollection.com/html/ORD-Light~bulbs-Signal,Corner,Tail~and~accessories~bulbs-No-4664-none.cfm

Perhaps I am wrong and someone else has done this mod. Oh, be carefull prying off the 3rd brake light cover. The plastic tab seems very fragile.

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gbaxley -

You're my hero! I've been looking for a source of LED brake lights. I'll have to look around and see if they make them in white too (seeing as how mine will be behind red lenses...maybe it won't make any difference). Now my goal is to have the entire brake system LED'd. I was just looking at that third light too...and I agree that the angle won't work. Either the interior will need to be modified, or a low-profile strip array could just be added to the trailing edge of the wing.

I'm on it! But again, I really do need to wait until a own a van to modify....bear with me.

Anybody else have any slick LED links like that one?

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Uh-oh. Found the LED replacement bulbs cheaper!

http://www.visualfxonline.com/lighting/twinkle.htm

Scroll down the page past the "twinkle" lights. You get a pair for the same price as the other singles. BUT, nobody is willing to tell me how bright these things really are.

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The 2002 brochure lists "Rear Roofline Spoiler w/Integrated LED Brakelight." Therefore, it might be possible to substitute parts to get a "factory" LED center stoplight. Trevor, are you listening?

(If it's really integrated well, maybe we can get it when they replace our spoilers with the crack around the washer hole
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I haven't looked yet (mine still works) but it may be possible to mount individual LEDs in holes drilled in the reflector. I've built small electronic projects where I simply mounted LEDs through a force fit drilled hole. For use in a car, subject to much more vibration, it's probably a good idea to glue them in. Anyone tried this yet?

Mel

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Oooh... Cool. Fixed my problem right there! I have GOT to get me one of them brochures so I know what I'm gonna be paying $32,000 for in October. Anybody have an extra brochure? I'll send you a SASE, and REALLY great karma for your troubles.


Let's hope this means that they've actually redesigned the whole spoiler as well, and made it a bit more robust around that screw hole.

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Sounds like there is a problem with the brake light as well as the spoiler, and Honda may have recognized it and responded with the LED system on the 2002. Anybody had a chance to talk to a dealer about the problem with the bulbs going out or melting on the earlier models.
 

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I just noticed my dad's 3rd brakelight was out yesterday when I was driving behind him. Then I paid attention to other Odys, and 3 out of 4 them had the same lights out.

So, I opened up (it was hard to take that cover off:mad: ) and this is what the bulb was look like.


It changed its shape, I couldn't get it out without braking it. See it's all burnt?
I am going to the dealer now to see what's going on.
 

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The 2002 Ody brochure indeed listed a "Rear Roofline Spoiler w/Integrated LED Brakelight" The '03 and '04 brochures omitted the LED designation.

The '02 models never had the LED. Perhaps it was a proposed engineering feature which never made to to production.

Didn't the generation I Ody's have the LED?
 

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Thanks to everyone for the warning. Sure enough, mine burnt out too; it's frightening to think how long I've been driving without this high mount brake light.

I am attaching two photos:

#1 shows the lens with the screw cover removed. I paid very close attention and noticed (where the arrow is pointing) an approx half inch long, thin notch on the surface. I inserted a small flat head screwdriver there and gently pried up and down to remove the cover. Thank goodness I didn't break anything.

#2 shows the deformed bulb which must be crushed to remove!

btw, notice the black mark on porschetr's broken bulb near the base? That's the melted black plastic from the bulb holder.

Nice job Honda!
 

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Mel said:


I haven't looked yet (mine still works) but it may be possible to mount individual LEDs in holes drilled in the reflector. I've built small electronic projects where I simply mounted LEDs through a force fit drilled hole. For use in a car, subject to much more vibration, it's probably a good idea to glue them in. Anyone tried this yet?

Mel

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Mel, I have toyed with the idea of simply adding one ot these LED light bars on top of the hi-mount brake light. This site also has license plate frames with LEDS.

http://signaldynamics.com/../../../../products/ministars/../../../../products/LightBars/ulb.asp

See the Ultra light bar:

http://signaldynamics.com/../../../../products/ministars/../../../../products/LightBars/../../../../products/LightBars/ultra.asp
 
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