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I always thought the new car warranty started with the odometer mileage at purchase. Is this incorrect?

So, if I leased a brand new car for 3yrs/36K miles, but the car had 300 miles on it at delivery, then I can return it at 36,300 miles. But, the final 300 miles wouldn't be covered under a 3yr/36K warranty, since that would expire exactly at 36,000?
The lease is with a different legal entity than the warranty. Your second paragraph sounds right. Your first one: It's your thought, show something that supports it. Like all warranties for the last 20 years are available at Honda's website Toyota.com.

I'll add that my '15 TAh came with the 25k of "free" scheduled maint. I discussed with the service writer the timing of the 25k service. Rightly or wrongly, he emphasized that it could not be after it had turned 25000. So, I brought it in at like 24800. Maybe I got an ahole. I dealt with it.
 
The lease is with a different legal entity than the warranty. Your second paragraph sounds right. Your first one: It's your thought, show something that supports it. Like all warranties for the last 20 years are available at Toyota.com.

I'll add that my '15 TAh came with the 25k of "free" scheduled maint. I discussed with the service writer the timing of the 25k service. Rightly or wrongly, he emphasized that it could not be after it had turned 25000. So, I brought it in at like 24800. Maybe I got an ahole. I dealt with it.
Interesting... I thought the 25K just meant 3 oil changes. I've heard of people who wanted to stick with a 5K OCI, so they exhausted their 25K "free" maintenance by 15K miles.

So, Toyota's website says:
What warranty coverage do I have on my Toyota vehicle?
The factory coverage warranty period begins on the vehicle’s in-service date, which is the first date the vehicle is either delivered to the original purchaser, lessor, or used as a company car or demonstration vehicle.
  • Basic Coverage is 36 months/36,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date of first use and covers all components other than normal wear and maintenance items. This warranty covers repairs and adjustments needed to correct defects in materials or workmanship or any part supplied by Toyota, subject to exceptions.
  • Powertrain Coverage is 60 months/60,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date of first use and includes engine, transmission/transaxle, front-wheel-drive system and rear-wheel drive system.
It emphasizes "date of first use". I remember looking this up in the past, and I suppose I assumed date of first use meant date of delivery to the customer.

Now that I'm searching for this again, I remember why I tried to look it up awhile back. We bought a brand new 2001 Toyota Camry in July of 2001. Looking at the purchase documents, we had originally put a deposit on the car on 5/26/2001, and the dealer had to obtain the car from elsewhere, but the final payment wasn't done until 7/13/2001 and we didn't pick up the car until 7/13/2001. I don't believe the car was on the dealer's lot when we put the deposit down on 5/26, but my exact VIN was on the deposit receipt, so the car was either in-transit or needed to be obtained from some Toyota inventory warehouse. I assumed the date of first use would be 7/13/2001, since that's the day payment was paid in full. However, on the Toyota Owners website, it shows my car's date of first use as May 31st, 2001. I guess 5/31 was the day that the car arrived on the dealer's lot, and I suppose the time (36 month) portion of the warranty started on that day.
 
The warranty start date is the date of delivery to the customer UNLESS the car was part of the dealer "demo" program, rental fleet, or similar. In those cases the car is put into "service" via those programs and the warranty clock starts ticking. The mileage technically extends to 36,050 in the case of taking delivery of a car with 50 miles on it, but quite frankly no dealer I know is going to reject warranty at 50-100 miles over. On top of that there is generally a "goodwill" period out to 5/50K if you know to ask for it. I had a driver air bag replaced around 42K because the seams had begun to split and all I did was ask nicely. It doesn't usually work for the nickel/dime stuff though.
 
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Agree with the comment to carefully check all options.

When my father bought a completely new car from dealer, I compared the window sticker to the actual car, and I discovered it originally came with alloy wheels and Michelin tires, yet on the car were steel wheels with simulated spoke wheel covers and Firestone tires...

...after some hassle, took it back and the dealer put on the correct wheels, chrome lug nuts and tires.

Later, I dug out the spare, only to find it was still Firestone. So after more hassle, finally got this dealer to replace the spare with the correct Michelin tire.

BTW, we never went back to that dealer, ever! And while most dealers may be honest, I suggest to use a “trust but verify” approach.

Oh, also, 50 miles is no big deal, though since dealers have a frequent flow of transporters dropping off vehicles, it would not hurt to ask if they can accomplish the movement using one of the car makers transporter... nothing to loose just by asking.

Good luck!
Please let us know how it turns out for you...
 
I would agree with the statement that it’s still pretty much a brand new car with only 60 miles on it. I had the same exact thing happen when I picked up my 2018...BUT, I was never notified that it would have that amount of miles on it. I am used to having my new cars with 5-10 miles on them. I asked what was the reason for the mileage and the salesman told me they had to drive it from another dealership to the one I leased from. That’s fine and I can understand that...BUT, I know where this other dealership is and it is than 10 miles away. I would imagine it was used as a demo and miles were put on it from that, and that is how I was able to get a “deal” on my lease (without me knowing it was a demo).
 
I do not believe that the Toyota warranty has any language that bumps up the miles covered to reflect odometer at time of delivery. I'd love to be proven wrong, but don't rely on what some random guy posts on the internet.

Oh, the dealer selling to YOU is responsible for PDI. So the suggestion that you go for a ride to fetch and drive back to your selling dealer to leave it there for PDI is...nuts. May even be contrary to Toyota policy, as part of PDI is safety check.
This is a Honda forum. 🙂
 
This is a Honda forum. 🙂
Wait... how the heck did we start disussing Toyota warranties. I guess the same warranty terms should apply to Honda, though.
 
Look at it this way... at least you know its been tested... and if theres a teeny tiny scratch in it somewhere that relieves you of the misery of having done it yourself.
If it were me the one place Id inspect is under the drivers seat for boogers.
J/K. Not like an 8 yo is driving.
 
This is a Honda forum. 🙂
LOL! Like my fellow senior citizen, I have my Biden moments, forgetting where I am. I'm a bit younger, so at least I remember my wife's name...for now. (I have a Honda and a Toyota, and go between the forums.)
 
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Oh, also, 50 miles is no big deal, though since dealers have a frequent flow of transporters dropping off vehicles, it would not hurt to ask if they can accomplish the movement using one of the car makers transporter... nothing to loose just by asking.
Yeah, that's not going to happen lol. Those transporters are loaded in sequence for their drop offs, the drivers restricted by electronic logs, and they are GPS tracked. Once the carrier drops the car at it's destination they are no longer legally responsible for it so the insurance is gone. Any driver that did that on his own would get fired and if you did arrange it through legit channels it would take you at least a month to get it picked up. I'm involved in the trucking industry, so this is accurate inside info.

As mentioned earlier in the thread there are small transport companies that specialize in moving 3-4 cars at a time, mostly to and from auto auctions. That's how it would happen if you insisted on the van being trailered and would probably add a few hundred bucks to the cost vs driving it. Some retired guy will get paid $30 or less for that trip and most of time they trade a similar valued car back, so it only takes one guy. With gas the dealer cost to do that is less than $50.
 
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We bought our then-new 09 Ody in FL. The color/equipment we wanted was 35 miles away and it was driven to the dealer we purchased it from. We have had this vehicle for 12 years now and the 35 miles made zero difference in its durability or performance. I would say get the vehicle and don't worry about it!
 
When I bought my 2013 it was at the end of the model year and 2014s were coming in. I bought the last 2013 Touring Elite in northeast Florida at the time. A dealer sent a retired dude in a used Camry to pick me up 60 miles away to take delivery, so it happens.
 
Finalized the color, price etc and now the dealer says he need to transfer this car from another dealership and the car would have 50-60 miles on it by the time I receive it. I am worried on how they will treat the car during the drive, scratches etc. Has anybody done this before or will I be better off finding another dealer ?
I have driven quite a few dealer trades for my local Honda dealership. I wouldn’t worry too much about it. I don’t know any driver who would speed or drive recklessly. We don’t get paid anywhere near enough to cover the cost of a traffic citation. I am much more careful driving dealer trades than my own van.
 
Can't believe this saga is still going on. SMH.

When we got our Maxima brand new on Jan 5, 1999, we did not test drive it (long story). We settled on a price and when the salesman went to pull it out, it was discovered that it had a manual transmission. They did have the same color same trim in auto. They wanted $1500 more. Settled on $500 more and then the sales man came back with a hung face. The automatic was a dealer trade from VA and had 250 miles on the clock. He knew us very well (5th brand new car purchase in less than 3 months) and knew we won't like the miles. We took a chance and took delivery and I still have that car. It did NOT make an ounce of a difference and after being worried for 2 days or so, we even forgot about the miles on it. We had driven 165 miles to Raleigh to buy it any way instead of buying it locally in Charlotte, NC. The OP here is way overthinking things and then all the responders are still going with the replies. :D

While we're already on the Honda v/s Toyota bus, I don't think the warranty cuts of exactly at 36K or 60K. It starts on what is put as current miles in the paperwork so our Nissan's warranties were 36250 and 60250 for both 3 year bumper to bumper and 5 year powertrain. Same was the case with the Accord we bought new and the Ody we bought new although, both had 2 and 3 miles on the clock respectively and we test drove both to add like 5 more miles on top.
 
...5th brand new car purchase in less than 3 months
I'm very curious, how you ended up buying FIVE new cars in 3 months, and what happened to the rest of them besides the Maxima??
 
I'm very curious, how you ended up buying FIVE new cars in 3 months, and what happened to the rest of them besides the Maxima??
3 in family and 2 friends.
 
......he says before going on to add to the discussion and keep it going. 🙃
Ha. I can stop the discussion if desired. :D
 
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