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I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m getting my defective LCD screen replaced because it has a dead pixel (haven’t taken the time to count with a magnifying glass if there’s more than one) almost dead center of the 7” screen. My dealer has a replacement on order since the night I picked up the '02 van and I spotted it when they turned the DVD player on. He said it’d be covered under warrantee, though I’ve not heard back about the replacement yet and it’s been about 4 weeks. Hmm ...
Also, is this some recent phenomena, or did all those folks that have the iVES system installed all get perfect screens, or have they not notice any problems?
Nobody wants to hear what the “industry standard” rate of producing failures is; mine had better be perfect. Let some other schlep driving a Kia minivan stare at a defective LCD screen till it gives him a migraine. Intel and AMD grow a lot of bad silicone, but you don’t hear them saying, “Oh, it only miscalculates your account balance every 13thousandth time.” No, they trash the defects and tighten the production mechanism. It’s not like this is some new technology. They’ve been doing 8 to 15 inch screens for a long time now, and you rarely see a bad one from the better PC manufacturers, and when you do it gets replaced.
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Also, is this some recent phenomena, or did all those folks that have the iVES system installed all get perfect screens, or have they not notice any problems?
I appreciate this insight into LCD panel manufacturing. Unfortunately, I worked specing, buying, installing, and then supporting the entire network, including more laptops than I can count for 13 years, and nobody, not a single end user, would have accepted one with a defective screen. They’d have had me up on conspiracy charges faster than they can reboot their way out of a running application.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Razorback:
The red dot you are referring to is a stuck pixel on the LCD.
Our RES has a stuck blue pixel.
You will find that notebook computers, flat panel monitors, etc. all tend of have a couple of these.
It's due to the difficulties manufacturing LCD panels. The industry usually says if you have less than 5 stuck pixels on a typical notebook computer screen, then it is "normal" (which measures between 13"-15").
I would say on the 7" screen, Honda isn't going to replace the screen unless there are 3 or more dead pixels. That is just my guess, but that would follow industry practice.
I know it is annoying, but you may be fighting an uphill battle if you try to get it replaced!
Greg</font>
Nobody wants to hear what the “industry standard” rate of producing failures is; mine had better be perfect. Let some other schlep driving a Kia minivan stare at a defective LCD screen till it gives him a migraine. Intel and AMD grow a lot of bad silicone, but you don’t hear them saying, “Oh, it only miscalculates your account balance every 13thousandth time.” No, they trash the defects and tighten the production mechanism. It’s not like this is some new technology. They’ve been doing 8 to 15 inch screens for a long time now, and you rarely see a bad one from the better PC manufacturers, and when you do it gets replaced.
I think Tony the Tiger was right; the defective ones end up on the discount shelf at some big computer super chain. That’s where mine’s going, if I have anything to say about it.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tony the Tiger:
A stuck pixel is actually a defect on the screen and you should have the dealer replace the screen. Any laptop computer with a deal pixel is usually end up in the refurbished item section of a store.
Tony the Tiger</font>
Razorback ... you unwitting pawn of the oppressor, unite with the proletariat ... with US, your brothers, your fellow workers, your fellow Honda Odyssey owners ... and DEMAND replacement screens for the PEOPLE!<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Razorback:
Tony,
That's not entirely true. I work in the industry and usually 5 stuck pixels or less is considered OK unless they are all in one spot.
I would say two-three stuck pixels in random locations on the 7" screen, while annoying, won't be replaced.
Greg</font>
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’86 Civic – gone

’90 4Runner – great, but lacking for a family of 5
’02 GG Odyssey EX-L-RES – hello, my new best friend
tnuckels