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Defending myself (HDW671)

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I posted here, admittedly for the first time, because I felt that I had important input.
The accusations that I was posting to discredit Honda are surprising to me.
I was not driving the van when this occurred, but after being married to my wife for 15 years and knowing that she has never had an accident or ticket in her 25 years of driving cars, I have to give her benefit of the doubt and believe in her explanation of the account.
As far as the accusations that I'm a Chrysler dealer, "I'm not", but from reading all these posts, it makes me wonder if 90% of you guys aren't Honda dealers making $1,500 above MSRP for every Odyssey you sell.
It was never my intention to bash Honda or the Odyssey. I bought the Odyssey on November 02, 2000 (Vin #2HKRL18501H516982) because it was the most highly rated Minivan at the time. It replaced my 1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager that I bought new in November 1991. (It was a rattling piece of junk after 2 years and 30,000 miles, but we drove it for 9 years and put 120,000 miles on it)
I bought the Odyssey because I believe that they will be in much better condition during the second half of a car's useful life.
I work as a power plant operator (not a car dealership), hdw671 are my initials followed by the hull number of the submarine I was stationed on between 1985 and 1989 as a Navy Nuclear Trained Electrical plant operator and shutdown reactor operator.
If anyone would like to seriously discuss this incident, you can contact me by email at [email protected] and I can either phone you while I'm at work (Watts line) or correspond through email. I took pictures of the van on the side of the hill resting against the water header (not that they prove anything other than "we have an Odyssey" and "it has been wrecked") but I still have to get the film developed and scanned.
The information I quoted was from the website:
And it listed only Honda vehicles, because I felt that those were the only ones pertinant to this situation.

Considering the hostile response, I won't respond to this bulletin board again, and I'll let all of you get back to important issues such as "why loose change makes a rattling noise in the change holder"
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I understand the points that each of you make and I appreciate the replies to this post more so than in my previous post.
I also understand that human error is the "easiest" explanation and admit that it was my initial response before discussing it at length with my wife, and prior to the massive amount of research that I have done over the last couple of nights. As far as the point that ckonarske makes, "wife was flustered and couldn't respond to what the vehicle was doing", I stand by that statement but in no way do I equate that as an admission to fault on my wife's part.
I've been married to my wife for over 15 years and I know that she has never had an accident or ticket in 25 years of driving.
And in her words..."you wouldn't believe how quickly that van jumped over the curb and up the hill" What I'm saying is that she's a responsible experienced driver and although she's 42 years old (Don't tell her I told you) her reflexes aren't bad.
It's my belief (opinion), that while many of the Sudden unexpected acceleration incidents recorded, may be due to driver error, I also believe it would be naive to make an "all inclusive statement" such as "never happen" or "impossible".
During my research I read of an incident where a secret service driver had a sudden unexpected acceleration occur on the White House lawn and ran his Crown Victoria into a tree. I could be wrong, but I suspect that the Secret Service Drivers assigned to drive White House Diplomats around town are probably the best and most highly trained drivers on the streets.
Another site that I would suggest visiting is:
This guy goes into great depth explaining how cruise controls work and how sudden unexpected acceleration can occur, at any speed, regardless of wether or not the cruise control is on. Like everything else on the web, use your own best judgment disseminating the information provided.
I, myself, accept his credibility after reading his reports and I believe that he is very knowledgeable in respect to electronic circuitry. I think he states that he has a doctorate in electrical engineering, someplace on his website.
To summarize my feelings, I repeat that attributing SUVA to "operator error" is the easiest thing to do, but from life experience I've found it wise to avoid being "close minded" on any subject.
And with my knowledge of Electronics, I fully understand the possibility of mechanical failure (includes electrical)
Believe me, I've seen far stranger things while troubleshooting and repairing electrical and electronic control systems during my 17 years operating nuclear power plants and Gas turbine systems.
Let me close by reiterating that I made my initial post here because I felt a moral obligation to share our incident, and in no way was it to whine, or bash Honda. It is because of Honda's excellent reputation for reliability, that I was so surprised that it occurred.

[This message has been edited by hdw671 (edited 10-20-2001).]
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