Defending myself (HDW671)

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hdw671

Discussion Starter · Oct 19, 2001

Incredible!
I posted here, admittedly for the first time, because I felt that I had important input.
The accusations that I was posting to discredit Honda are surprising to me.
I was not driving the van when this occurred, but after being married to my wife for 15 years and knowing that she has never had an accident or ticket in her 25 years of driving cars, I have to give her benefit of the doubt and believe in her explanation of the account.
As far as the accusations that I'm a Chrysler dealer, "I'm not", but from reading all these posts, it makes me wonder if 90% of you guys aren't Honda dealers making $1,500 above MSRP for every Odyssey you sell.
It was never my intention to bash Honda or the Odyssey. I bought the Odyssey on November 02, 2000 (Vin #2HKRL18501H516982) because it was the most highly rated Minivan at the time. It replaced my 1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager that I bought new in November 1991. (It was a rattling piece of junk after 2 years and 30,000 miles, but we drove it for 9 years and put 120,000 miles on it)
I bought the Odyssey because I believe that they will be in much better condition during the second half of a car's useful life.
I work as a power plant operator (not a car dealership), hdw671 are my initials followed by the hull number of the submarine I was stationed on between 1985 and 1989 as a Navy Nuclear Trained Electrical plant operator and shutdown reactor operator.
If anyone would like to seriously discuss this incident, you can contact me by email at [email protected] and I can either phone you while I'm at work (Watts line) or correspond through email. I took pictures of the van on the side of the hill resting against the water header (not that they prove anything other than "we have an Odyssey" and "it has been wrecked") but I still have to get the film developed and scanned.
The information I quoted was from the website: http://www.autosafety.org/autodefects/HONDA.htm
And it listed only Honda vehicles, because I felt that those were the only ones pertinant to this situation.

Considering the hostile response, I won't respond to this bulletin board again, and I'll let all of you get back to important issues such as "why loose change makes a rattling noise in the change holder"

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shindog

· #11 · Oct 19, 2001

HDW,

First, let me say that, in the end, thank goodness nobody was hurt during the incident. Being a family man myself, I can understand you and you're wife's consternation from the events that occurred. I hope you know that I am sympathetic to your situation.

As others mentioned, the thread did take on a life of its own later on, but it's important to note that people were really talking mostly about the heated issue itself. Anytime there is something very controversial, discussion like this ALWAYS occurs. In my case, I've learned some things in this discussion I didn't know about the issue, about the human element, and about myself.

Please do not go away with a bad taste in your mouth for this forum, for I think it's really one of, if not the best of its kind on the web.

I will also email you personally to urge you to come back, and continue to contribute. I know you will be welcomed by all of us, as we do very much value people's opinions.... If you don't believe me, take a look at some of the threads around here dealing with W20 vs W30 motor oil, and you'll see. We don't always agree, but I think everyone goes away knowing a little more than they did, and having more perspective on all kinds of issues. And, if you wanna know about safety, we've got one of the most knowledgable people around as a moderator on our safety forum. OK 'nuff said, and 'nuff plugged.

I'm gonna send you an email now, urging you to come back, and maybe some others will do the same...

-SJ

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shindog

· #17 · Oct 20, 2001

hdw671,
Glad to see you made it back to the forum.

So has any failure analysis been done on your vehicle? I'm curious to know what if anything was found out about the vehicle.
Probably many here are particularly interested in a thorough exam of the braking system. You probably, based on your previous post, would be interested in the cruise control system, etc.... Is there a plan to collect some data on this vehicle so that some resolution can be made on this particular case? Or has someone already examined it?

I think that would be the one thing that would provide some basis for a good discussion on your particular case, as oppossed to just the general topic.

-SJ

p.s.- Thinking about this, where is the vehicle now, and are you planning on getting rid of it based on your wife's experience? (I think I know the answer to this question)

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[This message has been edited by shinjohn (edited 10-20-2001).]

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