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Defending myself (HDW671)

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Incredible!
I posted here, admittedly for the first time, because I felt that I had important input.
The accusations that I was posting to discredit Honda are surprising to me.
I was not driving the van when this occurred, but after being married to my wife for 15 years and knowing that she has never had an accident or ticket in her 25 years of driving cars, I have to give her benefit of the doubt and believe in her explanation of the account.
As far as the accusations that I'm a Chrysler dealer, "I'm not", but from reading all these posts, it makes me wonder if 90% of you guys aren't Honda dealers making $1,500 above MSRP for every Odyssey you sell.
It was never my intention to bash Honda or the Odyssey. I bought the Odyssey on November 02, 2000 (Vin #2HKRL18501H516982) because it was the most highly rated Minivan at the time. It replaced my 1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager that I bought new in November 1991. (It was a rattling piece of junk after 2 years and 30,000 miles, but we drove it for 9 years and put 120,000 miles on it)
I bought the Odyssey because I believe that they will be in much better condition during the second half of a car's useful life.
I work as a power plant operator (not a car dealership), hdw671 are my initials followed by the hull number of the submarine I was stationed on between 1985 and 1989 as a Navy Nuclear Trained Electrical plant operator and shutdown reactor operator.
If anyone would like to seriously discuss this incident, you can contact me by email at [email protected] and I can either phone you while I'm at work (Watts line) or correspond through email. I took pictures of the van on the side of the hill resting against the water header (not that they prove anything other than "we have an Odyssey" and "it has been wrecked") but I still have to get the film developed and scanned.
The information I quoted was from the website: http://www.autosafety.org/autodefects/HONDA.htm
And it listed only Honda vehicles, because I felt that those were the only ones pertinant to this situation.

Considering the hostile response, I won't respond to this bulletin board again, and I'll let all of you get back to important issues such as "why loose change makes a rattling noise in the change holder"
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HDW671,

I too hope that you stick around and continue to contribute to the board.

Note that the tone and content of the responses changed as the thread progressed. You could have easily avoided the more negative comments by returning to the forum sooner than the next day. If you are going to post something potentially inflammatory, don't do it when you can't reply in a more timely fashion.

Online discussions take on a life of their own. As they develop, posters contribute various perspectives. In your thread, you did not receive disparaging comments until about the 12th-15th post, which is actually pretty good by internet standards! Thread drift is real.

You didn't get flamed; some forums can get downright nasty.

It is natural for the thread originator to take the more negative comments to heart, so reread the comments and see if they are compassionate, particularly in the early stages of the thread.

It is the responsibility of the thread originator to know when he starts something that is likely to become controversial and then to set the thread straight if it gets offtrack.

Your post did not allow for any possibility of driver responsibility. You took a firm (and unverifiable) position, hence you invite similarly firm responses.

You tweaked the issue out of proportion by repeatedly citing the elementary school aspect of the incident.

Your post was an indictment of Honda. You made it sound as if Honda is insensitive to issues of safety and has been so despite years of government attention.

In short, keep things in perspective. Consider that you contributed to the response you received, which I still believe was considerate and fair.

Regards,

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Maugham

"I plan to live forever. So far, so good"
'02 RP EX-L
'85 Prelude that we'll keep!
'01 Ninja folding aluminum scooter
'00 New Balance Model 658 Shoes w/ Green grass stains and '01 White Laces
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ckonarske:
Judging by the times of his posts, hdw671 may not be able to post later in the day. Both of his posts were early AM and he may have been surprised when he came back and saw the responses.</font>
You are probably right, but a poster in this situation has no right to whine over strong responses or get upset by "thread creep."

He probably is new to posting, as further evidenced by his closing line:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Considering the hostile response, I won't respond to this bulletin board again, and I'll let all of you get back to important issues such as "why loose change makes a rattling noise in the change holder".</font>
An experienced poster admits when he could have done something better then sticks around to share and learn even more with the forum members. He doesn't take his ball and stomp off to his room forever.

Where is Emily e-Post or Miss e-Manners when we need one?

Regards,

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Maugham

"I plan to live forever. So far, so good"
'02 RP EX-L
'85 Prelude that we'll keep!
'01 Ninja folding aluminum scooter
'00 New Balance Model 658 Shoes w/ Green grass stains and '01 White Laces
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by caviller:
So, ummm, anyone got a good mod to fix the rattling change syndrome?</font>
<font color=brown>A generous application of Cheerio crumbs.</font>
Oreo crumbs work well but they disintegrate faster.
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