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One thing that seems pretty common on the Ody's I see running around is the large amount of brake dust on the front rims. I suspect the large size of the gaps between the spokes doesnt help the matter. I was just curious if anyone has used any of the disc brake dust shields out there? Pros/Cons? With 4 wheel discs, I am considering purchasing a set.

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Well if you're keeping the stock rims it shouldn't really matter because you can't really see them. But if you have or get rims like mine you might want to look into getting some. I know my disc brakes in the front already have rust on them. I'm considering getting covers like these: http://jcwhitney.com/product.jhtml?CATID=153606&BQ=jcw2

Good for:
1) hiding disc rust
2) hiding the drums in the back
3) Might add to the look of the wheels

You could also get these. But the sizes are kinda limited:

http://jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=51937&BQ=jcw2

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No- the shields I am thinking about putting on are simply black-they are not meant to be seen. They simply go between the rim and brake rotor and in theory keep the brake dust on the inside of the disc and not on the spokes of the rim.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by blakeinhou:
No- the shields I am thinking about putting on are simply black-they are not meant to be seen. They simply go between the rim and brake rotor and in theory keep the brake dust on the inside of the disc and not on the spokes of the rim.</font>
Shields are good for keeping your wheels clean, but not so good for keeping your brakes cool. The shields tend to interfere with the convective cooling of your front brake rotors (one nice aspect of the big gaps in the wheels), which is probably not as critical with the Odyssey unless one does a lot of mountain driving or uses the Ody in motorsports events (now there's a mental image!). I haven't read about too many warped rotor problems in this forum, so the shield may not be as big an impact as it is on other cars. I wonder if there are metallic or Kevlar pads that are compatible with the Ody-that is another way to keep the dust down, and you get better fade resistance to boot.
 

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blakeinhou: I'd stay away from them. Like odyfox said, they don't do well in the brake cooling department.
Nestor: I'm not sure you'd really want to get those "fakies". I've seen them on a couple of cars, REAL tacky. Worse than riced-out.

Just my 2 centavos.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by hachiroku:
blakeinhou: I'd stay away from them. Like odyfox said, they don't do well in the brake cooling department.
Nestor: I'm not sure you'd really want to get those "fakies". I've seen them on a couple of cars, REAL tacky. Worse than riced-out.

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I know what you mean. But I would like to find something that would hide the rust on my discs, have the looks of the disc brakes (the rear drums are boring w/ my rims), and not ricey. At all cost I try to stay away from "rice" that's not on my plate.


A possible solution is to attempt to upgrade the rears to the 2002 discs but it will cost much more than 2 centavos and it won't be easy to do. Any ideas?

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[This message has been edited by nemogira (edited 09-04-2001).]
 

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Thanks for the input guys-guess Ill stay away from them. Hey Nestor-why dont you paint the drum housing a silver/metallic color that will sort of match the front rotors? Just a thought, but would probably look better than those JC Whitney covers.

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Shields are a bad idea, not only because of the heat issue, but also, because they are made of thin steel, they will compress over time, which makes the wheels loose on the studs, and .... You can take this horror story from here.
 

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Nestor,
blakeinhou has a good idea there. I had my Civic's rears and front calipers painted and they looked pretty good. I used Foliatec caliper/drum paint set.This paint is made to stand the heat generated from the brakes. I think it was around $50 then (4 years ago).I'm pretty sure almost all the import acc. shops carry them.

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Nestor,
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Hmmm...painting the rear drums a lighter color sounds like a good idea. We'll see!
And thanks for the coupon 1ODY2NV. I'll try to dig around later and see what I can come up with.

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I had brake dust shields on my Caravan and had ZERO problems with them. I had aftermarket wheels on it from low miles and had warped rotors very early. I have read a lot of research on the subject (good article in the Road&Track tech correspondence column) and the conclusions reached were that heat is not the thing which warps rotors. The cause of rotor warpage seems to be rapid cooling, i.e. getting them real hot coming down the mountain and then cruising on the flat for miles without using the brakes (worse on rainy days). I installed new pads and rotors and put on a set of the dust shields, mainly to help hold some heat and preclude fast cooling. I had no further problems with my rotors and my driving habits remained the same.

As to the lug loosening concern, I always retorque my lugnuts at each oil change and did not find any problem there and I had them on there for several years. The "rice" issue is, of course, one of personal taste. I did not find the black background offensive, at all, since I am not wild about the "open" look of most aftermarket wheels, especially as seen under the car from the far side. To me it is a weak look and with the centers filled in I was happier. I made my own "faux" brake discs, as seen in J.C.W., many years ago from one of my wife's aluminum cooky sheets. That was not such a bad look.

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Would high temp Rustoleum in a spray can work on the drums? I painted my gas grill with some high temp paint and it seems to hold up pretty well. It only costs $4-5, compared to the $50 for the special paint mentioned above. With silver and black and some creative masking you could get some really wild looks.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Curculio:
Would high temp Rustoleum in a spray can work on the drums? I painted my gas grill with some high temp paint and it seems to hold up pretty well. It only costs $4-5, compared to the $50 for the special paint mentioned above. With silver and black and some creative masking you could get some really wild looks.</font>
Folks on some of the Volvo forums I frequent actually used gas BBQ paint for their rotors, so you should be okay with hitemp paint. The main improvement is to eliminate the rusty look of the hub, and you can also paint the rim of the rotor and the calipers if you are a real stickler. Her are a couple of web pages to feed the discussion:

http://www.volvospeed.com/Mods/caliperpaint.htm

http://www.volvospeed.com/Mods/rotor_painting.htm
 

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I knew my steel LX wheels / covers were good for something! Can't see any of the brakes. I would gladly trade with any EX owner who wants them!

I painted the hub part of my rotor on my Integra about 6 years ago with the rustoleum hi-temp paint. Still looks good today.
 

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The Kleen Wheels I have on my Ody have cooling slots, and appear to be not much less (cooling flow) than, say, the Ody LX wheels w/covers. I don't see how they can add to a rotor warpage problem any differently than the LX OEM wheels/covers.
So far, no problem with my shields (but only had them on a month so far), and my wheels are nice and clean. :)

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I just put some Kleen Wheels brake dust shields on the front of my Focus. So far so good. My front wheels are staying clean. I checked the wheels after my 68.5 mile drive home from work and they aren't any hotter with the shields on. Hopefully they work out. I know some people think they are a bad idea, but someone on this club said he has had them on every car he's owned and has had no problems. The Ody doesn't get dirty quite as fast as the Focus so I don't know if I'll put them on the Ody or not. By the way, I've had the Ody for 17 months and have about 13K on the odometer. I bought the Focus on January 25, 2003 and I'm already pusing 6K! So far so good. I haven't been Found On Road Dead yet. :rolleyes:
 
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