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My driver's leather seat is discolored where my jeans come across my waist. This happened within two weeks of buying the van. The dealership tells me this is normal because of wearing jeans and there's nothing they can do about it. Anyone else have this problem?
 

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I have heard the complaint before on the 3rd Gen, especially from those with the ivory interior, but I never heard of a solution. Is changing your wardrobe an option?:D
 

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Is the leather discoloring or it is dyed with your jeans color? I noted that my driver's seat outer corner has some subtle blue color where my butt rubbed when getting in-n-out the other day

Damn Levi's 505 jeans, they are not what they used to be. But hey, at least it is not the other way around :stupid:
 

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I'm noticing the same thing. I took a baby wipe to the leather, and the seats were cleaned again.

The baby wipe was alll blue too, so it's not staining the leather.
 

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It's jeans color. I don't have any new jeans, and my last car I had for ten years and the leather seats didn't discolor.

It's about the width of my body, not just a little spot from getting in and out. The dealership took it in and tried to clean off but couldn't.

I was given an unofficial word to try cheap hairspray or Simply Green, but I'm afraid of damaging the leather.
 

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It's jeans color. I don't have any new jeans, and my last car I had for ten years and the leather seats didn't discolor.

It's about the width of my body, not just a little spot from getting in and out. The dealership took it in and tried to clean off but couldn't.

I was given an unofficial word to try cheap hairspray or Simply Green, but I'm afraid of damaging the leather.
Well, you're going to have to either change your wardrobe and go with lighter jeans or learn to live with it. You can resort to weekly cleanings post a deep cleaning but that only lasts so long (at least for me). Same discussion happened in the 3rd gen and it seems the leather Honda uses is more prone to picking up the jean color than any other make so it seems. Search and read up on the old thread if you like. :)
 

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what color leather seats are you noticing this more? I would assume the lighter ivory color?
 

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Baby wipes cleaned it up nicely. If they can clean soiled butts, nothing is then impossible :D

I asked about the jeans color as when I read "discolored" I understood a fading tone...

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what color leather seats are you noticing this more? I would assume the lighter ivory color?
Gray leather in my case
 

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Co-worker just purchased a new Lexus RX350 with tan leather. Within 30 days, her driver's seat has a blue color to it.

I haven't noticted any issues on my cars, but I've always had the gray or black interior in my vehicles.
 

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Its called color transfer and it occurs too often with cheap Honda leather. I had an '06 Ody with tan leather that did not have color transfer issues as bad as the '10 Ody I have now. Seems Honda changed their leather in 2008, went cheaper imo and now color transfer is a big problem. Comparing my '06 to my '10 I have not had significant wardrobe changes in that time and the problem is worse on my '10. I have spoke to some detail specialists who have told me that poorly cut leather will color transfer easier. Also said leather is poorly cut to lower costs of production which goes with Honda's way of doing things with the Ody from 2005 to 2010.

The dealer tells you its not their problem, change your wardrobe...I say BS! It IS a Honda problem, settle for nothing less!

I have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with tan leather interior that has never had color transfer issues. So how can it be my clothing causing the problem?

I am holding Honda responsible for the disaster that is my driver's seat tan leather. Since week one I have used the best leather cleaners & conditioners, scrubbing with soft bristled toothbrushes to no avail. Compared to my '06 it never looked as bad as my '10 looked at 3 months old. Btw, do not use harsh cleaners on the leather, it will damage it.

As for what can be done, I was told that cleaning my seat will not really help, the dirt & color are imbedded in the leather so to clean or re-dye the skins will not work. The leather surface will not clean enough to allow color re-dying. The only real option is new leather skins followed by a cover if you replace Honda leather with Honda leather as the problem will return due to the poor leather Honda uses.

And to switch to black leather may hide the problem from site mostly but it will still exist.

The real fix is to hold Honda accountable and demand better quality leathers.
 

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Its called color transfer and it occurs too often with cheap Honda leather. I had an '06 Ody with tan leather that did not have color transfer issues as bad as the '10 Ody I have now. Seems Honda changed their leather in 2008, went cheaper imo and now color transfer is a big problem. Comparing my '06 to my '10 I have not had significant wardrobe changes in that time and the problem is worse on my '10. I have spoke to some detail specialists who have told me that poorly cut leather will color transfer easier. Also said leather is poorly cut to lower costs of production which goes with Honda's way of doing things with the Ody from 2005 to 2010.

The dealer tells you its not their problem, change your wardrobe...I say BS! It IS a Honda problem, settle for nothing less!

I have a 2000 Toyota 4Runner with tan leather interior that has never had color transfer issues. So how can it be my clothing causing the problem?

I am holding Honda responsible for the disaster that is my driver's seat tan leather. Since week one I have used the best leather cleaners & conditioners, scrubbing with soft bristled toothbrushes to no avail. Compared to my '06 it never looked as bad as my '10 looked at 3 months old. Btw, do not use harsh cleaners on the leather, it will damage it.

As for what can be done, I was told that cleaning my seat will not really help, the dirt & color are imbedded in the leather so to clean or re-dye the skins will not work. The leather surface will not clean enough to allow color re-dying. The only real option is new leather skins followed by a cover if you replace Honda leather with Honda leather as the problem will return due to the poor leather Honda uses.

And to switch to black leather may hide the problem from site mostly but it will still exist.

The real fix is to hold Honda accountable and demand better quality leathers.
Any light leather will suffer from color transfer. In fact the cheaper the leather, the less likely it will suffer from the problem. Go into a fine furniture store in Calgary (Eisnberg's) and ask them.

the cheap leather is over finished to make a thin and very slippery surface. That finishing makes the leather shinier and less absorbent (hence repel color transfer more). Check out the expensive natural skins with a softer bumpier skin - commonly known as 5000 grade leather and you will see what I mean. The Honda leather might be "cheap", but that isn't why it turns blue when you sit on it with sweaty jeans.

I've seen light coloured leather furniture from The Art Shoppe in Toronto turn dark after people in jeans sat on it repeatedly.

While you are doing research, check out the Land Rover (Range Rover) forums. The owners there complain about the same problem with their Ivory leather seats.
 

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He's right--its not a product of cheap leather. In fact, the new leather in the Odyssey is, by car standards, not particularly cheap leather at all.
 

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Could it also be that the dye used on jeans became cheaper and more likely to transfer during that time period?
 

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Shazzam said:
While you are doing research, check out the Land Rover (Range Rover) forums. The owners there complain about the same problem with their Ivory leather seats.
My grandpa's Escalade leather seats do the same thing.
 

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Could it also be that the dye used on jeans became cheaper and more likely to transfer during that time period?
I don't think so. My parents bought a peach creme sofa in Toronto for $18,000 20 years ago. Within a year, the color from my father's dark dress pants had left color on the leather. They ultimately had to replace the couch.

in looking at the EX-L and Touring models, I determined that the gray leather interior was a color that would look bad after a short time. To my eye it already looks a bit dingy because of the color and in time would look much worse. I'd stick with the darker interiors. My favorite is Truffle. Not too dark and would hide dirt and color transfer very well.
 

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I don't think so. My parents bought a peach creme sofa in Toronto for $18,000 20 years ago. Within a year, the color from my father's dark dress pants had left color on the leather. They ultimately had to replace the couch.

in looking at the EX-L and Touring models, I determined that the gray leather interior was a color that would look bad after a short time. To my eye it already looks a bit dingy because of the color and in time would look much worse. I'd stick with the darker interiors. My favorite is Truffle. Not too dark and would hide dirt and color transfer very well.
Agree on Truffle. That's what I went with.
 

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Always have had tan/ivory interiors in leather. We have 2 x 2006 Hondas, Accord and Ody with ivory. No problems with coloration, wear jeans a lot. Best leather we have had so far in Hondas, but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go cheaper since, as they have with dash materials.

But jeans definitely getting worse, clothing in general cheaper, just think that I pay the same for Levi's jeans as I did 30 years ago, weird.

But perhaps the key to our success is I cleaned and treated the leather the day I got the vehicles. Get a little conditioner on there and they clean up easier.

When I shopped a lot of 2-3 year old cars recently, I always noticed the leather looked much worse on black and grey interiors than on ivory interiors, Honda or not. Part of it is that black and grey leather is often matched with black and grey interiors, such that the leather comes away not matching the plastic interior over time, whereas the ivory interiors have more contrasts, black, browns and tans and wood, so the leather tends to offset and look fresher.

The future of truffle remains to be seen, looks good so far.
 

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The future of truffle remains to be seen, looks good so far.
I like how it looks as well (that was in our first test drive), but regardless of the quality, dark leather is terrible during Summer (especially if you are wearing shorts). I guess leather treatment it is, 3M or similar should do...
 

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Maybe this question should go in another section, but could you elaborate on the leather treatments you recommend?

We're taking delivery of our EX-L with Gray interior any day now and would love to prep it from the get-go as best as possible.

Thanks!
 

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I use the standard Lexol cleaner and conditioner (2 products)... one of the major Honda sites sells/recommends it, Amazon folks like it:

Lexol on Amazon

To be sure, as an Ody owner and family guy, am not the sort that sits around detailing my car, I give the driver's seat more attention, and for the most part fast-track surfaces that don't get much attention (and the kids seats have full time covers, but again, don't put a cover on the seat until you have a pretty good waxy treatment on the leather back there). I treat probably twice a year.
 
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