Stolen catalytic converter. The O2 sensor went with it causing the check engine light. Look underneath the vehicle. Costs vary, but aftermarket cats are going to be your best bet. Certainly drivable, just obnoxious. If you get pulled over, you can explain your predicament.
Engine Loud + Check Engine Light
2004 Odyssey with 180 k miles…
Hi - Question for the group about what this may be. Wife started car after work today.
Thinking it might be an exhaust manifold issue but can anyone confirm that sounds right?
Two questions:
1) Can it be driven to a repair shop about 10 miles / 20 minutes away or should it be towed?
2) What am I looking at cost wise? A range is fine as I know it could vary based on repair vs replace.
Thanks!
Hi - Question for the group about what this may be. Wife started car after work today.
- Engine was very loud. It almost sounded like the exhaust sound but louder.
- Speaking of exhaust, think I picked up the smell of the exhaust but from the engine area
- Check engine light stayed on.
Thinking it might be an exhaust manifold issue but can anyone confirm that sounds right?
Two questions:
1) Can it be driven to a repair shop about 10 miles / 20 minutes away or should it be towed?
2) What am I looking at cost wise? A range is fine as I know it could vary based on repair vs replace.
Thanks!
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OP Here - Hadn’t thought of a stolen cat. Could be. Although it was parked in a fairly busy hospital parking lot during the day. Also rainy today. Not that thieves don’t work in the rain (LOL) but not the best day to crawl under cars.
OP Here - Well I drove up to the wife’s work where we left the car and, yep, the cat has been cut out.
I guess what I said about thieves not crawling under cars in a fairly busy hospital parking lot during the day while raining didn’t stop them.
I noticed they also cut through a wire. It’s hanging by the exhaust pipe where it was cut at the front of the vehicle. Not sure what that goes to.
We have State Farm, comprehensive, $1000 deductible. Know we’re on the hook for that much but hopefully will get some part of it covered.
I guess what I said about thieves not crawling under cars in a fairly busy hospital parking lot during the day while raining didn’t stop them.
I noticed they also cut through a wire. It’s hanging by the exhaust pipe where it was cut at the front of the vehicle. Not sure what that goes to.
We have State Farm, comprehensive, $1000 deductible. Know we’re on the hook for that much but hopefully will get some part of it covered.
I was under the impression that the O2 sensors are only on the primary cats (the ones that are under the hood). The one that is usually stolen is the secondary cat that is located underneath and is not monitored...
OP Here -
Are aftermarket cats decent? From my research tonight, I’ve seen reports that they don’t last very long as compared to OEM. Of course, insurance might total the van if the repair is too expensive (I.e., if I tried to lobby for OEM, not that it would get approved anyhow).
Here’s a pic of the wire. This was taken from the passenger front door area. The wire is hanging not right under the center of the vehicle but a bit closer to the passenger side.
Are aftermarket cats decent? From my research tonight, I’ve seen reports that they don’t last very long as compared to OEM. Of course, insurance might total the van if the repair is too expensive (I.e., if I tried to lobby for OEM, not that it would get approved anyhow).
Here’s a pic of the wire. This was taken from the passenger front door area. The wire is hanging not right under the center of the vehicle but a bit closer to the passenger side.
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depends on the year...I was under the impression that the O2 sensors are only on the primary cats (the ones that are under the hood). The one that is usually stolen is the secondary cat that is located underneath and is not monitored...
The gen 4 under floor cat has none... its also smaller than the upstream cats and not worth their bother.
2nd gen has the downstream O2 in the middle of the cat as there are no pre-cats.
To answer the OP's question about aftermarket cats - they work. They may not work as well or as long as OEM since there is less of the precious metals, but if you compare the cost, are you willing to spend 3x or more, esp. on a 19 year old vehicle, and risk getting it stolen again? Aftermarket cats are not desirable to cat burglars (pun intended).
To answer the OP's question about aftermarket cats - they work. They may not work as well or as long as OEM since there is less of the precious metals, but if you compare the cost, are you willing to spend 3x or more, esp. on a 19 year old vehicle, and risk getting it stolen again? Aftermarket cats are not desirable to cat burglars (pun intended).
Aftermarket cats are indeed not as valuable to thieves. I would suggest a Walker cat.
Hey OP, this just happened to my 2000 accord 3.0 last week in NY. I got a CARB walker cat (some states, like NY, requires CARB cats) and two new oxygen sensors and a guy will weld it in for me. total about $900. The magnaflow LOOKS and is prob really nice but I didn't want to pay almost double for an old car with 215K miles.
Ill update when this is done.
Sorry to hear about that!
Ill update when this is done.
Sorry to hear about that!
This is good to know!depends on the year...
The gen 4 under floor cat has none... its also smaller than the upstream cats and not worth their bother.
Heard wrapping the Honda cats in cables makes it harder for the cat burglars to remove them.
Has anyone did this.
I have some 1/4” cable left over from my garage door, might try to weave it over and under and then add cable clamps.
Has anyone did this.
I have some 1/4” cable left over from my garage door, might try to weave it over and under and then add cable clamps.
custom fabrication of a vented steel plate covering the area appears to be the best solution.Heard wrapping the Honda cats in cables makes it harder for the cat burglars to remove them.
Has anyone did this.
I have some 1/4” cable left over from my garage door, might try to weave it over and under and then add cable clamps.
there are aftermarket ones for the prius, that look clean and less sketchy.
Get a aftermarket CAT. I did and it works great. Very good acceleration and MPG is fine too.
Sorry you had to go through this crap!
Our country is getting worse and worse.
Sorry you had to go through this crap!
Our country is getting worse and worse.
Walker Cats might last you 3 years, but if you don't plan to keep it that may be the way to go.
just got it done and needed to replace a couple of sections of super rusted pipes near the mufflers so 250 more. about 1100 with the walker cat and two new o2 sensors and newer pipes so im pretty satisfied. im garaging the accord and got a ring camera too.
by the way the OEM cat for the accord is like $2400 lol
by the way the OEM cat for the accord is like $2400 lol
OP Here with update -
First the police weren't able to track the thieves. The van (parked at wife's work which is a hospital) was blocked by a tree from the camera covering that area. Not that anything would happen to them anyhow, but that's another topic altogether.
Second we took the van to our local repair shop. The estimate came in at $1700. This includes an AP cat $590, front exhaust (based on where the OEM cat was cut out) $390, downstream oxygen sensor $170, labor $280. The rest is several gaskets, shops supplies, tax, etc.
We called several shops, maybe not the right ones, but couldn't find anything close to the $1000 numbers.
We'll run it through insurance based on the total. We have a $1000 deductible & the remaining $700 will hit insurance. Tried to keep the cost down (i.e., AP cat vs Walker) as we're closing in on insurance totaling it out. Plus we only intend to hold onto the van for 3 more years.
First the police weren't able to track the thieves. The van (parked at wife's work which is a hospital) was blocked by a tree from the camera covering that area. Not that anything would happen to them anyhow, but that's another topic altogether.
Second we took the van to our local repair shop. The estimate came in at $1700. This includes an AP cat $590, front exhaust (based on where the OEM cat was cut out) $390, downstream oxygen sensor $170, labor $280. The rest is several gaskets, shops supplies, tax, etc.
We called several shops, maybe not the right ones, but couldn't find anything close to the $1000 numbers.
We'll run it through insurance based on the total. We have a $1000 deductible & the remaining $700 will hit insurance. Tried to keep the cost down (i.e., AP cat vs Walker) as we're closing in on insurance totaling it out. Plus we only intend to hold onto the van for 3 more years.
I bought my own walker carb cat and the front and rear o2 sensors (honda uses denso) from rockauto. i am 99% sure the 30-40 bucks denso ones from rockauto are the same oem honda uses.OP Here with update -
First the police weren't able to track the thieves. The van (parked at wife's work which is a hospital) was blocked by a tree from the camera covering that area. Not that anything would happen to them anyhow, but that's another topic altogether.
Second we took the van to our local repair shop. The estimate came in at $1700. This includes an AP cat $590, front exhaust (based on where the OEM cat was cut out) $390, downstream oxygen sensor $170, labor $280. The rest is several gaskets, shops supplies, tax, etc.
We called several shops, maybe not the right ones, but couldn't find anything close to the $1000 numbers.
We'll run it through insurance based on the total. We have a $1000 deductible & the remaining $700 will hit insurance. Tried to keep the cost down (i.e., AP cat vs Walker) as we're closing in on insurance totaling it out. Plus we only intend to hold onto the van for 3 more years.
also op your ody prob uses denso 2344094 for the downstream O2 sensor and on rockauto it is $23 plus shipping. i guess its for convenience and the shop does have overhead.
I would think a local muffler shop should be able to do it for much cheaper.
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