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Our 2012 engine mounts are blasted. Has anyone used rockauto mounts as opposed to genuine Honda? 332$ a pop is a little pricey for our beat up van.

How bad can they be? Looks like they are solid rubber too. With the VCM disabled do I really need the extra absorption of hydraulic mounts? My 2010 explorer has solid rubber and it’s fine.
 

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A few people over on the gen 3 side of the forum have replaced their trashed active mounts with solid ones. The only thing they had to do was use either a VCMTuner II or S-VCM controller to guarantee themselves that VCM could truly never ever activate. I would imagine it works the same way in a gen 4 van.

The non-Honda active engine mounts are all crap - if you're going to try the active mounts then you really need to go OEM. For the solid mounts, it seems like the aftermarket is not too bad at all, but then spring for one of the two active VCM disable devices. The passive ones (VCMuzzler II, MaxMuzzler) can and do work very well but they can't guarantee 100% VCM disabling.
 
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I’d want to ensure 100% VCM disabled as well if going with solid mounts. It’ll beat the hell out of your engine should it kick on. Don’t bother with non-OEM active mounts. It’s either solid rubber non-OEM or active OEM IMO.

Were mods required on the Gen3 tho? Can’t remember if it was a plug and play solution. The caution provided too was decreased resale value or notion you’re really screwing with things if you sell the van private party.
 

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Were mods required on the Gen3 tho? Can’t remember if it was a plug and play solution.
I can't remember the exact details either - to be honest, because it's a problem that is extremely unlikely to affect me, I didn't bother to study the threads in a lot of detail. But I know it's been tried and I'm pretty sure that it's been tried successfully. I can't say how much work separates one from the other.
 

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Actually, after a little bit of thought, it might not be so straightforward.

The gen 3 Odysseys (depending on the trim level) could come with a VCM engine or a non-VCM engine, which means that solid mounts that could be used in place of the active ones definitely existed - they were both in production at the same time so they had to fit the engines and engine bays the same way. The gen 4 Odysseys never had a non-VCM engine option, so I really am not sure whether an active engine mount can be simply replaced by a corresponding solid mount. I don't know if there is a solid mount that is the same size, shape and fitment as an active mount for a 2011-2017 Odyssey.
 

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My VCM is disabled with the S-VCM. I’m good there. So you are saying the solid rubber RockAuto ones should work? I believe it is DEA / Martin ride control.

I just need this thing to make it until June. Then I’ll get rid of it.

The current mounts are so bad, it bangs every time it shifts gears. The excessive vibration has caused a power steering leak.
 

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Gen 4 mounts aren't that expensive compared to gen 3.
All of the aftermarket mounts are junk. You rather keep your old mounts instead of putting on new aftermarket mounts, it's that bad.

Try to source low mileage OEM used mounts locally or on ebay.
 

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Hello there, first post here. Bringing this one back to life because I've got the same issue with my 2013 and I haven't found a resolution yet... Got ours with about 110,000 miles. Thought I knew better than to muzzle the VCM. Fast forward to 135,000, and it feels like the engine's about to fall out. Now I have a VCMTuner II on the way.

I too was under the impression that some of the rockauto mounts were solid. Now that they've arrived (and that I now understand no gen 4's came with passive mounts), I see that the "front" and "rear" are active, while the "front right" is passive. Having now understood this, I probably would have just sprung for Honda parts given the terrible feedback on aftermarket active units.

So what are people doing with the gen 4 once mounts go bad? Suck it up and do Honda mounts? Or is there a solid mount available somewhere?
 

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I am also interested in this as I need to change my mounts as well. Shifts are not to bad but I want to address it before it damages other things.

Valvoline Maxlife 3X change last year. 2011 EXL w/ 220KM. S-VCM @ approx. 200K.
 

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I am also interested in this as I need to change my mounts as well. Shifts are not to bad but I want to address it before it damages other things.

Valvoline Maxlife 3X change last year. 2011 EXL w/ 220KM. S-VCM @ approx. 200K.
Most of the negative feedback I've seen about the quality of aftermarket engine mounts usually results from them being installed in unmuzzled engines and then not surviving long afterwards. Since you have a S-VCM controller already installed (and presumably plan to keep it in place), I would expect that aftermarket mounts would be an OK option. The reason I think so is because the aftermarket mounts seem to work well when they're brand new; their durability is the problem. The S-VCM would keep them from ever activating and getting trashed. The wear-and-tear on the engine mounts (active or not) is minimized on a muzzled engine.
 
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Most of the negative feedback I've seen about the quality of aftermarket engine mounts usually results from them being installed in unmuzzled engines and then not surviving long afterwards. Since you have a S-VCM controller already installed (and presumably plan to keep it in place), I would expect that aftermarket mounts would be an OK option. The reason I think so is because the aftermarket mounts seem to work well when they're brand new; their durability is the problem. The S-VCM would keep them from ever activating and getting trashed. The wear-and-tear on the engine mounts (active or not) is minimized on a muzzled engine.
So since shifting isn't all that bad would you recommend that I just inspect them and replace any visibly damaged ones? How do I tell if the active mounts are in need of replacement? I'll have a look at the after market units on Rock Auto.
I'm trying to stagger the repair bills in the coming months. The front struts and mounts need to be replaced as well... I'm kinda waiting for the assembled KYB units from Rock Auto to be back in stock as I don't want to deal with spring compressors.
 

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So since shifting isn't all that bad would you recommend that I just inspect them and replace any visibly damaged ones? How do I tell if the active mounts are in need of replacement? I'll have a look at the after market units on Rock Auto.
I'm trying to stagger the repair bills in the coming months. The front struts and mounts need to be replaced as well... I'm kinda waiting for the assembled KYB units from Rock Auto to be back in stock as I don't want to deal with spring compressors.
If I were in your position, I'd just inspect them and then decide what to do. The active engine mounts basically become static mounts with a muzzler installed. The wear-and-tear they'd normally get isn't going to happen anymore so they shouldn't get worse than they already are. If you're happy with how it's running now that you have the VCM muzzled, leave it alone. Save your money.
 
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