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My 2000 EX has just hit 15,000 miles, i am trying to follow the manufacturers recommendations since i have the Honda Care extended warranty. They pretty much want you to do all maintenance, this service is a couple of hundred $$$$$$$$'s, i really think Honda is very overpriced on this service...any suggestions????
 

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If you think Honda's bad, you should try a Mercedes.

Get the service. You cared enough to buy the warranty (which wasn't cheap), so why is this a hard question for you?

If the dealer's trying to add a bunch of stuff over what your manual suggests, then get a second opinion.
 

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Thanks for your opinion...By the way, i bought the warranty on-line from an upstate new york Honda dealer for the 7 year 100,000 zero deductible for $835.00, all the dealers in Florida wanted $1460.00 for the exact same warranty!!!!!!!!!! Talk about dealer mark-up!!
 

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Post the URL! I'm in the market for the warranty.

I thought the dealer cost for the Honda Care warranty was around $845 or so.



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I do not have the URL (I do not think there is one) but if you e-mail [email protected] request prices, they are by far the cheapest as down here wanted between $1400.00 & $ 1460.00 for the same warranty...These prices were from last April or May so i do not know if they have gone up.......Let me know if prices have changed
 

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The URL below lists a couple of places that advertise the Honda Care Warranty at 895. I called Brandon Winfree at Rusty Wallis Honda in Dallas and he said the price had gone up to 905 I think. I showed a print-out of the web page to the finance guy at Honda of Clear Lake and he matched the 895 price for 7/100,000/0. (Originally, the sales rep had quoted around 1,400.)

http://www.1netweb.com/checklist.htm

Rusty Wallis Honda in Dallas, TX
(214) 348-7500
(214) 328-8809 fax
www.thehondaking.com
 

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Here's a list of dealers that will sell you the HondaCare 100/7/0 warranty either by e-mail or phone. I collected this list from the Edmunds forum as I was doing research to purchase the warranty and have updated the prices and phone numbers as of Feb. 8, 2001. Note that it doesn't matter what dealer sells you the warranty. Present this information to your dealer, he may match the price.

If you know you will be driving the van over 20K miles per year it is much more cost effective to get a 5 year/100K warranty for about $200 less.

Honda doesn't sell a warranty for more than 100K miles.

If your van is over 2 years old and has more than 18-24K miles then you will pay more.

Union Park Honda (Wilmington, DE) - Greg Allen <[email protected]> (302) 573-5222 - $925

Saratoga Honda (NY) - David Winnie (518) 587-9300 - $975

Hatfield Honda (Maumee, OH) - Don Towle (419) 893-5581 $925 + $57.21 tax = $982.21

Burns Honda (Marlton, NJ) - Harry, finance (856) 983-0600 - $995

Hoehn Honda (San Diego) - Robert Lennick (760) 438-1818 - $1025

Empire Honda (Denver) - Jim Duvall (303) 399-1950 - $1025
 

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Fellow Ody owners,

I will be getting my 15,000 mile service done in less two months. I was wondering two things: (1) how much did the dealer charge you? and (2) the service advisor says that the valves on this motor is self adjusting and that they will not perform it at this 15K service (although it says that lifters and valves will be adjusted, on the flier). Is the advisor blowing a lot of smoke? Thanks in advance.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DTKWOK:
Fellow Ody owners,

I will be getting my 15,000 mile service done in less two months. I was wondering two things: (1) how much did the dealer charge you? and (2) the service advisor says that the valves on this motor is self adjusting and that they will not perform it at this 15K service (although it says that lifters and valves will be adjusted, on the flier). Is the advisor blowing a lot of smoke? Thanks in advance.
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I just had the 15K service done on my 00 EX and it ran me about $180.00. That was for the severe service schedule. My delear uses a service sheet provided by Honda to show you exactly what they did. It mirrors the maintenance schedule in the owner's manual. I don't have it with me so I can't answer anything about the valve adjustment.
 

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personally, i think some of the things they do is redicious. they charge $200 to change the oil, and pretty much look at everything and make sure its fine. and with our experience, we got honda care for a civic.. and never used it.
 

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Take the manual with you and only allow the dealer to do what is called for at that mileage. I'm sure a valve adjustment is not called for on that motor, at that mileage. The valves are NOT self-adjusting and there is a time when an adjustment check is called for, but it is way down the road. Also, just because you have an extended warranty, you do not have to have that work done at a dealership. You can have it done by any shop, or you can do it yourself (says so right in the owner's manual), as long as you save all your receipts and keep a good log on all you do.

Jerry O.

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I just checked the Honda checklist and it says:

"NOTE: Except for the 105,000 mile interval, check/adjust valves only if noisy."
 

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Thank you all for your reply. Guess I'll look for another dealership since they tried to convince me that the valves are self-adjusting (note to self: read manual first). Thanks again.

Oh one more thing, I noticed that they change the tranny fluid at 15K, but there is no mention of the (tranny) filter being changed.
 

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I'm one of those that rarely trust the dealer (I've seen too many over-fills, misplaced parts and unfinished jobs). So can DIY'ers perform the 15K tranny maintenance? I thought I read somewhere that to truly flush all the fluid requires some special consideration. Is it true or can a shade-tree do it? I do not have the manual in front of me so I don't know all the items for the 15K "check-up."
 

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The routine transmission service (fluid replacement) does not include a filter change. In fact, it seems that the filter is NEVER changed on this transmission. You just put a pan under the plug, take the plug out, let the fluid drain, replace the plug (using a new washer) and put 2.9 quarts of genuine Honda fluid into the transmission via the plug in the top of the transmission. The complete fluid change is done by a dealer/shop which has a machine to accomplish the task. My dealer says Honda has a problem with that sort of job, since some or most of the systems use a flushing compound, in the process, and they do not want that in their transmissions. If one is bent on a more complete fluid change, one can do the process, drive a couple of miles and do it again and again and again. That's what a lot of the fellas on the DC board do, since they are all paranoid with their gearboxes. There were even a couple of guys who did complete changes by very risky methods, such as taking one of the cooler lines off, starting the engine and having someone pour fluid in as fast as it came out the other end. Oy! Not on my van!!!!

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There is an earlier thread on this with lots of information -- do a search. You can only drain about a third to half of the fluid from the drain plug. Per Helm: Changing the fluid requires three drains and three top ups with a drive around the block between each one. The successive dilutions renew the fluid.

Transmission shops have a machine that will force clean fluid in while the dirty drains out.

The internal filter is not a serviceable routine maintenance item.
 
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