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Hello friends,

My Canadian 2019 Odyssey Touring levels at 15.7L/km, which is about 14 MPG.

I have a average load in the car, with family of three including myself and a heavy carseat, stroller.

Is this reasonable or should I be bringing the car to the dealership?

Car is currently on 6000xx KM and 1st oil change had been done with no obvious improvement
 

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Highway, city?, ac, no ac? Hypermiling, driving habits?, red light drag race?

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sorry to be like a noob, lol, yea, mostly city, ac on, i don't have the green button on, no drag racing but do drive spiritedly.
 

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We have a 2019 Elite. My wife drives very short distances during the week and averages 14-15 mpg. On longer drives >20 minutes, we’ll see 17-18 mpg in the city. On the highway we get 27-30 mpg.


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Hello friends,

My Canadian 2019 Odyssey Touring levels at 15.7L/km, which is about 14 MPG.

I have a average load in the car, with family of three including myself and a heavy carseat, stroller.

Is this reasonable or should I be bringing the car to the dealership?

Car is currently on 6000xx KM and 1st oil change had been done with no obvious improvement
Sounds like you are right on track. Take it on a trip at 80-90kph for about 100km and see if it improves...
 

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You also didn't specify whether this was the dashboard readout, or your own hand calculations. Either way it sounds reasonable, esp. with a heavy foot. Our 2016 EX gets ~15mpg in "suburban-stay-at-home-mom" service, and ~28mpg on long trips.
 

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I have to say this is one of the discouraging aspects of getting a new van. My 2014 EXL Nav currently gets 17 local and upper 20’s hwy and low 20’s blended. My 2011 EXL got low 20’s local and routinely exceeded 30MPG highway. One trip we got 33MPG. It was incredible.
 

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yes it is dash reading i will do manual reading next time and report back here...
 

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@caboy808, I am in the same boat as you are. I have the Econ mode on; light foot on gas most of the time; I do have side rail & cross bars. I was expecting better milage cause of the 10 speed but didn't do better than my 2009.
 

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oh yes, i have chrome rail and other plastic accessories like visors and etc. But thats not supposed to be the case.
 

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I was surprised too at the actual around town economy. We have a lot of hills and on short trips up and down the hill to the store we can see songle digits, and thats all at 25-30mph.

Highway cruising with a big Yakima box up top we see high 20's easy.

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I purchased my new 2019 Ody EX-L in May of 2018. We began having our MPG combined city/highway at 9 mpg. It has improved and is up to 14 mpg combimed. I took it to my dealer and he checked it out and determined it got 17 mpg on the highway. He just drove it a few miles on the highway only. He gave me a Lemon Law flyer. I instead contacted a dedicated lawyer who specializes in these types of claims. He said that under the fraud law in California (with a 4 year statute of limitations) I could receive my refund of the purchase price plus up to 3 times that amount as a penalty. I'm going to pursue that route, especially when I hear that this is a persistent problem for many people. At my lawyers suggestion, I'm taking it into another dealer for one last effort to see if it can be diagnosed. Honda America in Torrance has already denied my claim and stated that there is no defect in the vehicle. Sounds like many people should be reporting this to them so they can recall these defective vehicles.
 

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How did you determine 17 by only a few miles? And 9 where you towing max load

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Novalight, I initially confirmed the accuracy of the vehicle's calculator by doing it the old fashioned way (miles between fill-ups divided by gallons used between fill-ups). Thereafter my vehicle's internal calc was reset automatically after each fill-up. I towed no load and all of my driving was just my wife and I. The dealer made the decision about his effort to determine the mpg, not me. I wanted a full vehicle diagnostic but the dealer and, evidently Honda America (who reviewed the dealers analysis), made that decision and calculation using the Trip B setting on that speedo function. I've had two Dodge minivans before this Ody so I'm not new to minivans. I'm just curious if anyone else has contacted Honda America, had this problem fixed, or, taken Honda to court over this problem. Anyone???
 

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@caboy808, I am in the same boat as you are. I have the Econ mode on; light foot on gas most of the time; I do have side rail & cross bars. I was expecting better milage cause of the 10 speed but didn't do better than my 2009.
pretty sure 10 speed wasn't designed to be more efficient than 9 speed... both 10 speed and 9 speed have the same EPA ratings... not sure what was the reason Honda did that, maybe a place holder while they were working on their 10 speed?
 
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