That was pretty much my point. No one ever "takes" anyone for ANYTHING. All deals are voluntary. You can take it, or not.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If there is a gripe about mlu's post, it's his 'how much these dealers are taking us for' statement. Fact is the dealer can't 'take us for' _anything_ since we don't _have_ to buy the product if we feel that it's not worth the price he's willing to sell for. If you pay his asking price, it was 'worth' that much to you, so you got the deal you wanted (barring of course misrepresentation or fraud on the dealers part).</font>
Yeah, but trust me--if he took the deal, there was probably more on the table to be gotten.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I don't remember if i mentioned this here before, but I used the invoice price that I've bought (yes, they are not free in Canada) as a starting point in my negotiations. The tactics proved successful. I told the dealer explicitely that I feel the invoice plus $800 CAN would be a fair deal. The dealer agreed almost immediately, and the deal was sealed. </font>
Ay, and there's the rub. The "invoice" price has nothing to do with the actual wholesale cost of the car to the dealer.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The wholesale cost of the item is the seller's business, which he may share with the buyer, if he so desires.</font>
Why would the level of service change for a customer that bought at this dealership or at a local dealership. A service/parts customer is still a service/parts customer. The service department gets their money back from Honda for warranty work on the vehicle regardless of where it comes from. In the majority of dealerships, any monetary reward for reaching a sales goal will rarely mean a dime to the service or parts guys. Likewise, when a service department reaches it's goals, the lot lizzards won't directly see a dime from this.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jerry O:
Those who buy out of town/out of state would seem to fall in that category, since they come home and expect top drawer service from the "greedy local dealer".
Just my coupla cents more on the subject.....
2001 GG LX[/B]</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jerry O:
They will know whether you bought locally (computers) and, if it is the same as it was in the past, warranty work does not generate the same revenue as regular shop work. The factories typically did not allow the same labor rates. I guess some of you folks wouldn't care if people left town to get whatever goods or services you deal in.
Jerry O. 2001 GG LX</font>
Funny, no one ever asks why one bought the Dodge or Ford that was built in Mexico instead of the Accord that's been built in Marysville, OH since 198?.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Be careful, if you get too attached to the "buy local" rhetoric, someone will ask you why you bought a Japanese car which was assembled outside of our borders, when you could have bought a Chrysler/Dodge product. </font>