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Had my 2002 Ody (138K) in for an oil change the other day.

Service manager said the high pressure power steering hose (I think I got that right) needs to be replaced soon as it is leaking (although there's nothing on my garage floor...) So I figured a hose needs to be replaced, no biggie, until I heard the cost...$370 !! Does that sound right? I assume the part likely doesn't cost much; is it hard to get to?
 

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Yeah, labor could be a big part of total cost.
Do you have the part number of the hose ?
 

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Looks to be $100 for the hose but that is an online price. Local dealer would be another $50 I bet. P/N is 3713-S0X-A02.
 

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so that's ~$270 for the labor. Smart(er) people...where is this thing and why so expensive. The service advisor couldn't tell me.
 

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Service managers have a book with prices of most fixes. If they are too much find an independent service shop and get their quote. There is no reason to go to a dealer for anything other than warranty work. Even oil changes can just as well be done else ware as the dealer provably has a low paid laborer to do those mundane jobs.
 

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so that's ~$270 for the labor. Smart(er) people...where is this thing and why so expensive. The service advisor couldn't tell me.
Look for the bottle that you put the p/s fluid in, follow the hose back to the pump. The high pressure one is the one attached to the pump with bolts and is partly metal.
 

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Edp10,

The OEM part number for the "High Pressure" Power Steering hose, or the Power Steering Feed Hose as Honda calls it, is 3713-S0X-A02. It is depicted as ref # 4 in this 2002 Odyssey P.S. Lines diagram.

Looks like you can buy the part for $98.91 :)
 

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Mine is leaking as well. Typically a high pressure power steering hose leaks where the metal is crimped to the rubber hose. My hose does not appear to be leaking from the crimp. I've decided to try replacing the o ring first. Perhaps this will fix the leak.
 

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Two things come to mind when it comes to Power steering (p/s) problems. You could put some p/s sealer into the pump to try and slow or stop the leak all together. A good product I have had success with is Lucas Power Steering treatment. I had a p/s leak in one of my other vehicles, put some Lucas into the p/s res. and it has not leaked for 5 years.

If you want to replace the hose I suggest taking the hose to Hose Man (here in So. Cal) or any other hose repair facality. Just look up Hose in your phone book and you will find shops that can repair it or make you a new one for a fraction of what the dealer wants.

If I was you, I would try Lucas, if that did not work, have the hose fixed or rebuild based off the one you bring into the Hose Man.
 

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I paid just under $600 for my service at a Honda dealership in West Los Angeles. They said all the fluid lost from the leak was falling onto the connector pins for the steering column, which could have set off a major fire or completely stalled my ability to steer altogether.

My uncle is a mechanic--he said he would've charged me about $500. So ultimately, this is one incredibly expensive repair that, unless you know how to do it yourself, is necessary. With the proper tools, this repair takes about 3-4 hours (you have to really get under the motor to undo the hose). The leak happened 2 years and 25,000 miles ago...
 

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2007 Odyssey with over 200,000 miles. After a bottle of Lucas and then three to four bottles of power steering fluid in the last four months, I purchased a refurbished power steering pump at Advanced for $100 and a new reservoir for $20 seeing fluid on the hoses. In removing the old power steering pump, I could not get the pulley off. I finally broke down and took it to my local Merchants. The manager then pulled an old service record from December and stated it was most likely the high pressure hose. He then quoted a price of $200 for the hose. I'm hoping they can reinstall the old power steering pump and save me $100. I'll let you all know on Monday.
 

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I paid just under $600 for my service at a Honda dealership in West Los Angeles. They said all the fluid lost from the leak was falling onto the connector pins for the steering column, which could have set off a major fire or completely stalled my ability to steer altogether.

My uncle is a mechanic--he said he would've charged me about $500. So ultimately, this is one incredibly expensive repair that, unless you know how to do it yourself, is necessary. With the proper tools, this repair takes about 3-4 hours (you have to really get under the motor to undo the hose). The leak happened 2 years and 25,000 miles ago...
Not sure how a PS leak got on steering column connector pins since the hose is on the passenger side of the engine compartment and the steering column is on the drivers side with engine and suspension components in between..
Did you mean the PS pressure switch wires?? What did they actually do for $600? That's pricey to me.
I replaced my hose with an oem from majestic honda $99 shipped in less than 2 hours 3 years ago. A good set of line wrenches and a jack and jack stands or ramps (which is what I used) will do the trick. Pull the hose, remove the PS pressure switch, put PS pressure switch in new hose, install hose, add fresh fluid and bleed the system.
 

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I replaced my hose also on my '04. I used an aftermarket hose from Rock Auto - I think it was around $80. The procedure is conceptually quite simple. The only issue is routing the new hose in place, it takes some doing but can be done in a couple of hours total as noted. You need a flare wrench to loosen the fitting nut. Even with a good flare wrench, it was slipping. I ended up using a small pipe wrench(either 8" or 10") and it came loose no problem. Swap PS switch as noted. The wires on my switch had been broken, so I also had to purchase a new Dorman harness and splice that in. It really is not that bad of a job. I also replaced my bottle and o ring since fairly cheap. Works great now.
 

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got mine from RockAuto and paid local tire-brake shop $140 to replace last fall, I tried it myself and couldn't get the flare nut off the rack, I stopped before I rounded it off. They get $70 an hour for 2 hours, and I got the hose for $55 plus shipping. $200 total. $370 isn't totally out of line. If their hose is $100 and they mark it up a bit and get more than $70 an hour, it is fair enough if you want to keep them open. Mechanics never get to bill for every hour they actually work. Just got the rack and pinion replaced on Friday for $741 parts, labor and real Honda fluid. All this on 2003 with 200K and counting.
 

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as someone that has also replaced this line, i will offer my opinion as well.
mine was leaking from the crimp at the connection near the pump. got my replacement from autozone. used a flare wrench on the fitting at the rack from the drivers side wheel well, and removed the old assembly. no big issue,,yet,,,,getting the new assembly backin place is the bugger,,took me several frustrating attempts (couple of hours) i considered cutting the assembly and flaring it back into place with required hardware, but in my last try it snapped inplace and i tied everything back together. as for the ps pressure switch, i had to rebuild the connector and lengthen it. all works again.
 

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got mine from RockAuto and paid local tire-brake shop $140 to replace last fall, I tried it myself and couldn't get the flare nut off the rack, I stopped before I rounded it off. They get $70 an hour for 2 hours, and I got the hose for $55 plus shipping. $200 total. $370 isn't totally out of line. If their hose is $100 and they mark it up a bit and get more than $70 an hour, it is fair enough if you want to keep them open. Mechanics never get to bill for every hour they actually work. Just got the rack and pinion replaced on Friday for $741 parts, labor and real Honda fluid. All this on 2003 with 200K and counting.
I have to replace mine as well, seems like rust is rearing it's ugly head on all these earlier models.....mine just developed a pin hole in the line under the car and I was going to braze it in place but there was too much fluid to accomplish the job (would have worked too!) so when I went to loosen the flare nut, the tube twisted (again, corrosion at the nut as well) and the tube snapped. The nut turned fine, but I;m now having to buy a complete hose.

Now for the question...How is the Rock Auto hose holding up? any issues with the fitment on the sensor on the hose?

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as someone that has also replaced this line, i will offer my opinion as well.
mine was leaking from the crimp at the connection near the pump. got my replacement from autozone. used a flare wrench on the fitting at the rack from the drivers side wheel well, and removed the old assembly. no big issue,,yet,,,,getting the new assembly backin place is the bugger,,took me several frustrating attempts (couple of hours) i considered cutting the assembly and flaring it back into place with required hardware, but in my last try it snapped inplace and i tied everything back together. as for the ps pressure switch, i had to rebuild the connector and lengthen it. all works again.
I'm not sure what you mean by "re-building and lengthen the connector"? was the hose the wrong item?
 

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the hose was fine,,i was referring to the electrical connector for the pressure switch. they are notorious for the wires breaking because there is very little slack in the wires which in turn causes the engine to surge to higher rpm's. i rebuilt the connector and lengthened the wires on that part of the harness,,they also sell pre-made wire connectors to remedy the situation,,, sorry i was not clear initially.
 

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the hose was fine,,i was referring to the electrical connector for the pressure switch. they are notorious for the wires breaking because there is very little slack in the wires which in turn causes the engine to surge to higher rpm's. i rebuilt the connector and lengthened the wires on that part of the harness,,they also sell pre-made wire connectors to remedy the situation,,, sorry i was not clear initially.
Don't worry about it...... I looked at several aftermarkets and it made sense what you said. I think I located a hose that may have the 45deg fitting. But I may still have to do what you did....we'll see.

Thanks again,
 
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